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Heat said
It's a pretty decent comedy.If you watch it as a Batman movie then it's terrible. Very, very terrible.


This, so much this.

Yog Sothoth said
Marvel hasn't really done anything very interesting since the 90s, DC has been great since the death of superman story line. DC knows how to do crossover story lines, Marvel is totally cluttered and confusing. Not to mention I hate what Marvel has done to the x-men and have gone overboard with the avengers being in almost everyone of their titles. DC has the better stories and don't constantly turn out one crossover after another, DC actually builds up to it and has an aftermath. Seriously read Kingdom Come by Mark Waid and you'll see that DC destroys marvel in story lines. Marvel has some good single hero titles but their team comic have been sub par for a long time.
Marvel has done pretty well since Disney bought them out. Though while mostly in the film department, the only films that DC makes are Batman ones, while marvel has a much bigger cast to work with. To be fair, if DC didn't have batman, they'd be in much worse shape, as people don't care about superman as much as Batman on a global scale, and most people don't know or care about other heroes not featured in Justice League, DCAU was how a lot of people got into DC stuff.

also Wonder Woman's creator literally said that he created her because he believed that there should a superhero role model for girls.


And he failed, simple as that. He wrote a female character, not a person, and thats why he failed. Write a character, and when your done, change all the hims to hers, hes to shes, and basically gender swap them, and you'll have a much stronger female character than most people saying "I'm making a strong female character". Bonus points if at the end of that gender swap you add some feminine traits, and thus have a true strong female character. Also we'd have far more female characters in stuff if the producers got it out of their head that only male 'strong' characters sell. Korra, Kim Possible, or MLP anyone? (and MLP makes more money than most other franchises nowadays.) Give it about 20 years when those old farts are out of the business and watch the equal rights boom. But thats enough of that, back to talking about the Bat credit card.
Heat said
You mean the bat bulge?


Yeah, also all that stuff in.. I think Batman and Robin live action movie with Arnold being Dr. Freeze... Seriously? a bat credit card plus bat.... well I can't say. that was just... what? esp the credit card.
Krein said
*looks up Black Canary*Welp, I found my new favorite superheroine :p.


I said usually.... Til that stuff happens. DCAU canary was pretty reasonable. :P. Sorta like Samus and her Zero Suit tbh :P. though to be fair, Batman wearing a skin tight outfit like that is sorta eeeeh too if you look at it from a certain angle :P.
Fair enough on the kyrpton things, that makes sense now, but that was also probably a retcon because the writers saw the same thing I did and had to fix that up. :P

WW is not a good female role model, thats just something DC shoves down your throat to try to get the feminists off their backs (Black Canary is a better one imo, usually anyway...). True female role models are pretty much every character in My Little Pony, Friendship is Magic. Shes an OK one, but not the best, not by a long shot, Especially if Miller writes her, but then miller is sorta eeeeh anyway so that doesn't count against her.

And of course while she has gone against 'gods', Superman could just as easily fight them and beat them far quicker than she can while taking less damage and having far more varied ways of taking them out. If she could say, punch ghosts, while superman couldn't, that would be different, but as far as I'm aware, thats not the case and why WW is an inferior superman, same powers, but less of them and with her same powers being worse in all regards than supermans, except DCAU where she was equally as strong.

Dunno what they changed in new 52, I sorta got bored with DC comics around the release of DCAU's Justice League and I've been sticking more with Marvel after that since they had deadpool.
so whats holding everyone up in the park?
Back from IRL stuffs. So, Superman arguments, yay. DCAU was his best incarnation, agreed. He wasn't super OP in that one, and was pretty much a better WW with more powers. (Which is why WW is such a bad hero, shes supposed to be 'the trio', yet shes literally a worse superman in all her powers minus the lasso, which you can lie through anyway by saying vague things. And of course her personality outside of DCAU isn't that great.) And why was an advanced scientific race with superpowers adn the ability to fly into space on their own power, not smart enough to put on space suits and fly into space before the planet blew up, or even let the planet blow up in the first place? And since superman sometimes doesn't need oxygen, that logically means they wouldn't need oxygen too, so how does a planet blowing up wipe them out anyway? So many contradictions. At least batman can go one on one with superman and win 100% if he wants, hes smart enough to make a kyrptonite aerosol.

And for marvel, those guys are usually villains, and usually arc villains at that.
I'm going to have to wait awhile methinks before I can do stuff. lol.
My only problem with Superman is that hes the 'control' or 'poster child' for super strength. though his main problem is that he has invulnerability, super speed AND super regeneration AND flight. Lose 2 of those and he'd be fine, but nope. Also he has those other ranged abilities, oy... Also who said Light was agile? Shes just fast when she gets going. Batman is wayyyy more agile than Flash, for example.

Some heroes are stronger than him but lose all that extra fluff, and weaker ones get better fluff, but yeah. How super strong is John or WW?

at least hes not batman, but unlike superman, Batman being OP is entertaining. XD.

Seriously, just... superman existing throws balance out of whack. Everyone else is fine, but not him... And kryptonite isn't a weakness, unless it totally paralyzed him as well, but nope. >.> Can't even give him internal organ damage due to super regen >.>. And what makes it worse, thats all biology for him. Which also means... why did krypton get blown up if everyone there was a superman? Seriously that makes no sense what so ever. At least city of heroes balanced a bazillion power sets and pairs fairly well. lol. also why Marvel is better. They have no superman.

You make sense with your reasoning, just... I wanted to rant about superman.
hm... If Light is going to be that weak I'd either need to make Kinetic charge, charge quickly instead of slowly, or give her another ability I'd think.

Why does superman even have to exist? >.>
Hm.... 4000 lifting sounds ok I suppose, considering she'll get stronger as the rp goes on and kinetic charge makes her hit harder anyway.

Now, any objections on making Fusion Punch hit as hard as a Falcon punch when she is going fast/near the cap of her kinetic charge?
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