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Letter Bee said
That's actually the ability of one of my NPCs, Gary Stuart.


Congrats, you can oneshot everyone in the RP who isn't Light. :P

NarcissisticPotato said
I guess I would allow someone to make portals with limited range (so for example, you can't link a portal with the moon and pull everyone into an vacuum. It depends how it's done but if it's done right, it'll be balanced.


That ability is wayyy more powerful than what she has. Very quick example, conjure a portal inside their body or a small portal in the direction of motion they're traveling. Now if they move an inch, internal organs are coming out of said portal, meaning instant death if the portal is made inside their brain or around their head. If its a projectile that makes said portal, same thing still happens, just make the portal smaller than the body that will fit through it, the mini wormhole will have the same effect, just from the outside inwards.

My days of DnD have showed me almost anything can be a game breaker if you use it the right way. Summon bug -> Summon Golden bug. congrats, your a lvl 1 spellcaster thats causing everyone else to have a deathroll. :P. Same way I can think of a counter to nearly any OP power.

And regarding the Immortality issue, I'm kinda against it, especially considering that it'll take a Spirit Bomb or Black Hole to kill your Char. I mean, do we even have a char that can let off an attack like that? No, I don't think we do, because that would also be considered OP. I get that she's weak where endurance is concerned but if you can't kill her through conventional or even unconventional means, then she's essentially an non-kill-able troll.


Still don't see the problem. Knock her out and lock her up, same result. dunno why death has to be the end all to be all thing.
NarcissisticPotato said
I don't know why you would want to play a character like that, Archmage. It's a combat-orientated RP and she's basically a walking punch-bag to see who has the capability to knock her out! If you want to play her then I'll accept her but I don't think you'll have a lot of fun! Also, if people fight against you and think you're OP then we'll have to have this conversation again!


Well she does have super strength, so yeah, she has SOME offensive capability :P. And maybe down the line she can use the defensive capabilties for... defense of others unlike now. Plus down the line, maybe portable hole. Lots of growth still.

Unrelated note, a person can only create portals as their only ability, these portals can be created along any sightlines they have, and are created at the point they designate instead of say, like the portal gun where its a projectile that makes the portal (The latter can still work though) How would you deem this ability? UP, OP or balanced?
Yog Sothoth said
If you have seen John Carter or have read a princess of mars then you can expect my character to be leaping around a lot to get to places and rescuing damsels from falling to their deaths. Is John accepted?


If it is, here the link to the topic to post your CS in [url]http://www.roleplayerguild.com/topics/58944/posts/ooc?page=1[/url]
Letter Bee said
Let me be candid: That is a false analogy.If Looney Tunes/Tom and Jerry characters were transported to this world, they would be OP. If Looney Tunes/Tom and Jerry characters were transported into the world of the Gifted, they would still be OP. Why? Because . Just because something works in one world/show doesn't mean it works in all worlds/shows.And, sorry if I make you hate me with this argument; that wasn't my intention.


And thats probably where the misconception is. They can't be killed short of a spirit bomb or black hole, yeah, but at the same time a person with a sledgehammer can do some serious damage/knock them out for a while with a good hit (Or make them fall off a cliff). Plus think of the psychlogical problems toon regen would cause, you couldn't take situations seriously anymore, which leads to deadpool moments of insanity at times.

Sure, an extreme example is that Superman wouldn't be able to beat any of them flat out, but they couldn't beat superman either, and superman could pretty much just ignore them for the most part, or throw them in a pit or something. lol.

So, I've said my points and honestly, the only think bothering me is the immortality - it is true what you've said that toons survive all this stuff but we ain't all toons so a problem begins to develop here. Also no one has died yet guys. Come on! Start shooting each other a little more, or at least try to get someone romantically! Elijah is a lady's man, if he doesn't sweet-talk Nightingale into some romantic fun times, I'll be disappointed!


Ok, I'll be blunt. state the EXACT problem it causes. I've already made it so she can't defend othres using her regeneration as attacks will affect her differently and more or less 'ignore' her or have her pose very little resistance to them, so the human meat shield is gone. She can be knocked out so endurance matches, unless the opponent is stupid enough not to do some sort of containment thing, isn't a reality, so whats the problem? She changes up how people have to fight her, where instead of killing, its knock out and contain, which is more or less the same thing. Is that the problem? Because thats the only one I see. Instead of "dodge dodge dodge" its "gets hit, comedic moment, regenerates" Both end up with knockout or victory as the final result so yeah, whats the problem, especially since almost no dodging can lead to better lead in attacks from the opponent.
NarcissisticPotato said
Hulk jumping into the atmosphere is one of those moments were I facepalm, sigh deeply and give Marvel a disapproving shake of my head. Does anyone know a drop of physics there? Like seriously - for us to do it in real life, we need to make some of the most powerful machines costing billions. While the Hulk, some genetically altered greenman with big legs can just jump on up into space. I don't mind fictional pieces exaggerating possibilities but that is just stupid!Also, that's fine! A quarter mile will do as long as he's not hop-skip-jumping everywhere and only really does it for the reasons labelled.


What about my character then? Gave some good reasoning on her.

And jumping that high would also cause a decent sized earthquake from the force needed to jump said distance in one shot, but hey, its marvel and comics sorta gets away with bizzare stuff like that just because its cool.
Potato, what about my character and yoggs? Mine looks OP on paper but I've made points as to why paper lies in the interest check topic. TDLR version: all thats listed minus Reality Shift pretty much every looney toon/tom and jerry/old cartoon has, and some of those cartoons like Wile e coyote have even more abilities on top of that, yet they aren't OP, so yeah. :P.
AcerRo said
I remember one comic where he jumped from one continent to another. I kinda feel that Archmage and Yog are op. I think what makes this RP so grand is the strongest characters can only maintain that power for a short amount of time. It makes you think about how you use your powers. There is only a couple of players that haven't had that issue because theres only been one real fight. Everyone has limits to what they can do.


According to the video games Hulk can leap high enough into the atmosphere to grab satellites and bring them down on people if he wants to. think about that for a moment, thats over hundreds of miles into the air he is jumping. And the comics show this in his strength alone, and I'm sure a couple have done it already.

To be fair, the powers I've listed minus Reality Shift are the average powers of your everyday cartoon. Will E coyote would be a scary supervillain or superhero if he decided to take some martial arts classes because all of those abilities he has, along with the ability to use anything via an ACME crate. Sounds OP on paper but very different in practice. Superman could never beat any loony toon or tom/jerry/old cartoon. Sure the cartoon wouldn't beat him either, but it would be a stalemate. Now if I gave Light portable hole, that would be totally different. THAT is OP, and something to work towards if ever.

And of course Reality Shift is more of a weakness than a strength. Makes her hard to keep contained for long periods of time, but also means she can't use any weapons as well, and even picking up objects to throw at people would have a reduced effect.

And yogg isn't worse than your average B marvel or DC hero. Lifting weight and punching strength aren't directly linked together. Bruce Lee was living proof of that.
Dead Cruiser said
I find it pretty funny how you're passing judgement on another character's balance, when your own character is still not yet accepted due to balancing reasons.


Oh no, I'm not judging his character, I'm fine with it personally and he could increase the power without any problems imo, I'm just stating what potato is probably thinking about it.
Yog Sothoth said
I wanted my character to have jumping abilities because I find flying to be a little overdone


Fair enough, My only concern is how much jumping is a weapon for the hulk, while superman doesn't really use his flying as a weapon but more of a mode of transportation. Not saying your idea is bad, I like it, I'm just sayng the potential problem with it due to past heroes using said modes of transit. City of heroes didn't have that problem though and Hulk can leap into earth's atmosphere if he wants so yeah, you prob wont be anywhere near hulk levels of damage from jumps.
Yog Sothoth said
can I just lower the jump to a quarter mile?


That would be fine imo. thats about the range of the Superjump skill from City of Heroes, and that game is a prime example of a way to make good heroes. lol.

Though how far does hulk jump when hes traveling?
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