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I'm liking the character roster. Lots of varied powers.

Now the question. Who is going to be hitting on whom? xD
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Not at all. Compare Young justice superboy versus Justice league superman. He was still coming into his powers with room to grow, he had super-vision and x-ray, but no heat vision or super speed unless his human DNA was surpressed.

Couple months back I played a superman who landed in hawaii instead of kansas, I gave him the endurance and heat vision as his primary powers so he could take punishment and deal out hits as well.

Since thee are so many aspects of supermans powers, pick your top 3-5 favorites and focus on them more and give yourself come room to 'level-up'.

As before, suggestions only.


That sounds really sweet. xD Sounds like a City of Heroes kinda powerset balance thing, which I'm fine with xD.

EDIT: Wait, Superboy had Xray? I didn't know that!
@Archmage MC
To be fair, both Superman and Batman are "Mary Sue" characters - they're just able to be labeled as such for different reasons.
Superman, because he's pretty OP - though he wouldn't be considered so on his home planet - and Batman because of his behaviour and backstory.


Yep yep. xD I'm just super chatty and trying to help @Princeofhearts's char idea to work assuming their dead set on it. Problem with Superman is the extreme lack of weaknesses for so many powerful and pricy powers, and even then his weaknesses aren't that strong anyway.

@Archmage MC

I got a feeling you want my character to be hella weak. If it was like this, I would've just made something else other than Kryptonian but I'll see what I can do.


I don't want it to be super weak, its more the Teen Titans setting and powerlevel area than anything. And lack of palpable weaknesses against any villain that isn't the top tier DC villains, which the Titans don't really fight since its out of their powerlevel range. (I'm not including any batman villains here because they are pretty low on the DC power scale if their name isn't Joker. And even he isn't that high on the scale tbh.)

Also admittedly I'm an advid Superman hater. xD

@Archmage MC
To be fair, both Superman and Batman are "Mary Sue" characters - they're just able to be labeled as such for different reasons.
Superman, because he's pretty OP - though he wouldn't be considered so on his home planet - and Batman because of his behaviour and backstory.

edit ;; I gotta go, though, so I hope you guys can sort this out. (I'd really leave the decision up to the GM, though.)


Yeah, I'mma do that. The basically carbon copy of Superman's powerset with 100k tons of SS really raised red flags in my head though. xD
@Archmage MC@Fabricant451

I see, well next time I'm just gonna make a Batman type character. xD


Its not your fault. Lots of hate for Superman out there xD. Like I said, Goku vs Superman didn't help things at all. xD

If your dead set on a Superman like char, we can probably work something out to make them work.

You could make him have roughly or a little less than the durability/strength/speed of Starfire/GMs char, but instead of energy bolts you got your vision and breath powers nerfed a bit. Tack on the Red Sun/Kyrptonite weaknesses, change the knowledge down to be reasonable, but not JL levels, and we could probably make stuff work, yeah?
@knighthawk

Yessir, I'll change it. :D

Edit; I never knew making a Krypto could be so bad tbh x.x no one likes Kryptonians I am guessing?


There is a reason why Superman hasn't been successful in the same way Batman has, hes just a mary su char that sets the bar for DC heroes in such a way that unless your Batman, your kinda SOL. Plus imagine how hard a Superman videogame is to make in comparison to a Batman game. With Batman, its feasible for him to lose in most situations. He usually doesn't (Unless its DCAU), but its not beyond the scope of belief. Superman? You KNOW hes going to win, your just waiting for it to happen as nothing can hurt him, and you know the writers don't have the balls to kill him off and keep him dead or crippled unlike Batman.

Plus Goku vs Superman, with the deathbattle team using Silver Age superman didn't help things at all.
@Archmage MC@Wisp

I personally was going for Supergirl lol cause I was inspired by her TV-Show.
But they said all Kryptonians had the same abilities and I didn't really think of Superboy, I just named his Alias as that. And he could have threats, I mean there's his weakness of Kryptonite, etc.


Yeah, but kryptonite is supposed to be rare, same with red sun radiation. My char has that net/gas/ext weakness which is much, MUCH more readily available, even on a shoestring budget.

@PrinceofheartsFor one, I'd tone down the scale of his powers. A fist-fight using super strength of 100,000 tons with flash-equal speed is over the top compared to most others if he went off the wall from mind control or some such. most superheroes get super strength or super speed, not both. And tossing on super-genius intellect with full martial arts training.

Soft suggestion and suggestion only is to set yourself up with a personal level or point system and shift the things around to scales of strength, instead of starting off with arctic superbreath, make it 10 MPH and lower temperature by 10 degrees, you could freeze already cool objects around 40 degrees and kick up debris easily hands free. Then after some adventuring and training, ramp it up to 20 MPH winds and 20 degree cooling. When you reach huricane force winds the arctic breath will be just as easy to accomplish.

But teffinately drop the strength and speed to something like 10X a human of his height/weight, that's 100-120MPH and 2000 pounds or so. More than enough to be a superhero without being justice leauge material off the bat.


Thats about Superboy levels, except I think Superboy had 10 ton lifting cabaility instead of 1 ton, yeah?

Superman chars are really hard to balance. its like their points system is overbudgeted by a lot.
@Princeofhearts
Yeah, but Superboy was a clone. The DNA didn't really work in his favour, so he could super jump, but not fly.
So if Kadar is a Kryptonian, I think his abilities make sense. He just wouldn't have them mastered or anything, you know?

edit ;; I forgot about the heat vision - I've been rewatching Young Justice, and I don't think he had that, either. Not sure about the breath, though.


So basically Golden age Superman? I think Golden Age was the weakest of the 3 ages when it came to superman, yeah? or DCAU superman nerfed would work too. He was balanced pretty well.
@Archmage MC

What do you think should be nerfed? ^_^ Cause, I went to a website, where Kryptonian powers were explained and they seem to have a lot for being a Kryptonian. But tell me what you think I need to change and I will. I obviously didn't want to be stronger than anyone nor OP.


Yeah, Superman chars are kinda weird since they have so many strong powers going for them. I can understand the extreme values if you just copy-pasted things though.

GM would have to pick and choose tbh, because my char is sorta made to deal with Superman chars, so shes your direct counter on the power triangle in my head. I think the problem is that short of Darksied or Brainak, I can't think of any villains that could be a threat. My char has a lot more villains that can be threats due to the gas/tied up weaknesses meaning that most of Batman's rogues gallery down to the B or C listers could give her trouble.

@Archmage MC@Princeofhearts
He sounds to me like Superman - Superboy couldn't fly, though, for instance.


I don't think Superboy had heat vision or any breath or vision powers either, and his SS was about on par or a little less than Hulk's base strength. (Which is still quite considerable)

He did get the flight/vision/breath powers though when Lex gave him those 'enhancers' which also made him go crazy too, right?
You might wanna nerf your char @Princeofhearts, they sound stronger than DCAU Superman from my quick skim or Superboy from Young Justice. Unless I'm missing something?

GM is the decider though xD.

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