Please RNGsus let my treasure plunders be sick as hell.
And while you went into Skyrim with rose colored glasses, I don't see how you can go from that to this unless you yourself changed as a person on how you look at games fundamentally.
Most games from my experience have far more of a linear story line to the gameplay, particularly in the beginning, and Helgen is very very short compared to breaking out of Oblivion's prison for instance (which you did acknowledge) so I suppose it's a much shorter learning curve, you're correct on that. Though it only explores the basics and doesn't go into smithing or riding horses or shouts or soul gems or what is effective against different beasts unless you happen to find the right people/trainer for that later on, which a lot of games just hand feed you. (Though if you decide to go straight for the Civil War quests, it does help. Like the Blacksmith ready to help teach you once you reach Riverwood).
Yes it does. You can assassinate him with a well placed bowshot. You can sneak in and shout him off the walls to fall to his death. You can be open about it in combat. You can cast a spell to summon something that wreaks havoc in the base to distract him or the guards. It takes multiple playthroughs to get tired of it for many. Particularly if you've explored everything and the newly randomized encounters or even set enemies seem new the 2nd or 3rd time because...well you've explored everything and can't remember half of it. (Saw the rest of your section of the post, I just replied and didn't quote the rest because it might confuse me/you).
Not true. There isn't 'any game' that has those kinds of numbers or statistics. And even taking away mods, it would still be more played than most games out there.
And re-releasing it on other platforms let's people play it...because they want to. Because they like it. There are only a handful of games in the world that could claim to be as well sold or as frequently played as Skyrim.
But Halo is constricted by levels (that have no different biomes or random enemies and encounters) and actual static dialogue, with no open ended anything, with even more limited game mechanics that in turn limits the scenarios in which you beat it, and without a myriad of different things an RPG has.
However you're saying it's a bad game through reasoning I think you can use for a lot of different things to make them sound bad.
From your entire set of posts, I can tell that you don't find Skyrim immersive, which is what is needed in order to enjoy a game. A lot of people find it very immersive.
I think if you look at our worlds and our environments, they're really rewarding. I think on the character side, how the NPCs react to you is still not quite where we want it to be.
You have approached Skyrim with an "A+B=C" kind of outlook, when every game can be reduced to that and seem dull. You might be serious and if you don't find it immersive, then that's your right. But a lot of internet trolls use that kind of logic to just shit on a game to be alternative.
I still don't completely understand exactly why we're talking about Bethesda as a whole, but I will say yes. Bethesda brags about things in the same way Fable famously bragged all those years about it's 'freedom/realstic world' gameplay, they leave bugs, and use some gimmicks to distract players. Totally. I really enjoy Bethesda games but I'm not a blind follower of them.
Also I've not played No Man's Sky. (Googles). Damn it got a 5/10 on steam, and at best 7/10 everywhere else.
You're literally voicing an opinion to make a discussion or argument. That is what we are doing.
The core fundamental design of the game is the and usually in a game there is a learning curve and a few levels you need to grind through before you're more or less free, but as soon as you leave Helgen you have all of skyrim to explore.
Skyrim is open ended on how you can complete those quests. It's not open ended because it gives you quests that no one has ever seen (hence why no one has ever seen them), it's how you do it. Dual wielding spells, using different shouts to your tactical advantage, and random encounters in a huge ass world to find them in.
However, so as not to get off point, yes. Many of the quests are fetch or kill quests, but as I said earlier that's not in any way, shape, or form calling Skyrim bad. That's like saying "well in Halo all you do is pull the trigger." As I said, that's exaggerating the flaws to make the game seem like it's worse than it truly is, and you could do it with anything.
While I can't say you're wrong because it's simply your opinion on it being uninteresting, I can say the numbers disagree with you. The number of players, the fact that it's been on the top 20 most played games of steam every day for the past 6 years, and all of the rewards it has, and the fact its still selling show it is interesting. If you don't find it interesting, just say that and don't call it inherently bad. I think the lore is Bamf and so do many.
I was simply saying that hit at Bethesda wasn't bringing any merit to the argument when we're talking about the game and not the developer, and if we were, then well, it's good to note that a lot of developers are like that.
By exaggeration, you're over-blowing the inevitable flaws of the game to make them seem far more crippling than they are, when you could break down any game like that to suit your world view. That's not critical, that's just shit talking, not to mention a straw man fallacy.
You're complaining about things you don't need to do, or things most games are guilty of. You don't need to break the game and ignore everything else and go to the College of Winterhold. You can defeat enemies in a myriad of ways, find random encounters, do quests I enjoy instead of slaying quests, I can go on all day.
Almost all games have
<Snipped quote> but then again, no one is making you do those kinds of quests.
If you're not into it, get into the story, explore the cities, there's so much more content and there's so many ways to play the game you don't need to do fetch quests, and honestly all of your points can be boiled down to the above. You don't need to do what you don't want to do, if you want to skip over the gameplay by fast traveling or skip the story part by saying 'lol all I gotta do is this' and you honestly don't care about the world or what is happening, you're going to think it's dull just like in anything.
The strong part of Skyrim, which is the strong part of any given Bethesda game, is the big dumb world. Bethesda knows how to make a world that rewards exploration
And a lot of your word fluff is about 'the dialogue is static.' You could have just said that, but instead just created a blog on that being your point for much of your initial post. And while it's not tehcnically untrue somewhat, it's also not really a good point, as its such a large game (and dare I say province) that people seeing you as a blacksmith and giving a preprogrammed reaction to it is still immersive if you've traveled across 30 in game miles to another settlement you've visited once in the past, and them not knowing you're Dovahkiin isn't that bad of a thing.
Also many game developers are like that, and it doesn't inherently make Skyrim poorer which is what you're speaking on.