Shy said
HE SAID HE WAS GOING WITH THE MAJORITYI THINK WE NEED A POLL TO PROVE ITS THE MAJORITY
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Shy said
Here is my question:Ham keeps talking about how historical science can't be known because it is based completely on assumptions due to the fact that we weren't there at the time. My question is how can he know that the Bible is the word of God? Was he around back when it was compiled or written?
That's my problem.
The Bible is the word of God?
Okay, let's try something.
Who wrote the Bible? Did God come down, pick up a pen and start writing?
No? Okay, then who wrote it? Dogs? Kangaroos? Gorillas? No? Let's make a guess and say that it was humans.
Ham already admitted that humans sin. They make mistakes.
So if humans make mistakes, and humans wrote the Bible, then what makes the Bible a) the word of God and b) the complete and utter truth?
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His suit jacket isn't sized properly and it bothers me. The little things.
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Shy said
Did you not just hear Ken say that "Just because something is the majority, doesn't make it true," as well as his doctor example?
Teehee.
Shy said
I enjoy how this debate is being held with out the argument over whether or not God exists. Good job.
Here's my question. If Creationism is the only truth, why is the majority of the world NOT Christian?
The counter argument is "you didn't personally observe it, thus you can't expertly speak to this point."
I'd charge Ken Ham to plant a tree in his backyard. Ten years later, he should cut it down and count the rings. There should be enough rings to account for ten years. Then it doesn't matter if you personally observed it or not, you can extrapolate based on the fact that all trees make rings in a similar fashion.
I want Bill to destroy this observation argument like this. Please, please, please!
I'd charge Ken Ham to plant a tree in his backyard. Ten years later, he should cut it down and count the rings. There should be enough rings to account for ten years. Then it doesn't matter if you personally observed it or not, you can extrapolate based on the fact that all trees make rings in a similar fashion.
I want Bill to destroy this observation argument like this. Please, please, please!
mdk said
That's the premise, yes, and (as Ham has pointed out about a thousand times) they don't have a problem with moving on to go to actual science afterwards. As a premise it's not much more ridiculous than 'God didn't do it and that's the end.'
Personally, I don't see why religion and science have to be diametrically opposed.
To me, science tells us the HOW about the Universe. Religion tells us the WHY about the Universe.
God created the Universe? Cool. Makes sense, there had to be something before the Big Bang. Maybe God sneezed. Or pushed a domino over. Whatever. He started stuff.
Six days? Could have felt like it to God. We may have been made in his image, but I'm damn sure God isn't human. He's got to be some being that exists beyond the three dimensions that we exist in.
And so on and so forth.
That's why Creationists continue to perpetuate their one-sided view. The end-all argument is just "God did it" and that's the end.
Shy said
The Kangaroo argument. Beauty.
God invented a teleporter. /debate
Beatrix said
Compared to Ken Ham... Bill Nye's presentation started off really weak.
As much as I love him, Bill's making a lot of assumptions about his audience's level of knowledge. I get what he's saying, but the ignorant won't.
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