Dinh AaronMk

Fallout: Equestria - of RP and Bellyrubs

Yes pls.

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Precipice of War - We Write Under The Sign Of The Goat

In any event Armenia was split between Russia and Turkey to begin with anyways. So there was still a significant Armenian population that Turkey took over again when they invaded Georgia-Armenia in the seventies, which was presumably the home of all the Armenians and Georgians that did not flee, and the sorts of people who want their original borders restored anyways. So then we come back to the original-original argument that happened when this was first an issue on who draws borders and in the end I think we already settled this fucking two years ago. It's over and done and under the bridge, don't burn it to sink it in the water again.

Precipice of War - We Write Under The Sign Of The Goat

And it was basically a five year war. Armenia's fight for independence carried on long enough to matter.

Precipice of War - We Write Under The Sign Of The Goat

@Dinh AaronMk That comparison to Vietnam would be valid if Vietnam had been invading the US, but that's not what happened. The American people grew tired of fighting a costly war overseas, because at the end of the day no one cared as much about Vietnam or communists if it meant losing thousands upon thousands of American lives on some foreign land. The situation with the Turks here is way different. They were fighting off an invasion. And because they believed Anatolia to be their land, they should have fought harder for it. The heavy cost means a lot less when you are fighting for your own home. I think the Vietnam example you brought up is a bit silly in this context but if we're really going to use it, then the Turks fit the role of the North Vietnamese more than they fit the role of the US, since they were the ones being invaded. Armenia would be the one with the role of the invader. The problem then becomes that, since they both believe the land to be theirs, there is no "the cost is too high to prolong this war in foreign land". They would both want to fight hard for what they believe is theirs.

@Pepperm1nts

Even Vietnam excluded we had parties who wanted to end a war even when the enemy was on the home turf here in the US. In particular the Copperheads who wanted to end the war with the Confederacy with immediate peace, goals or direction be damned. The simple fact is war wears people out and even if at home or abroad the longer a conflict goes the more it'll grind on people's ability to endure the policy and take the weight of the stress brought by war. At some point they will simply cease to accept it and the governments ability to wage it will deteriorate if continued combat will lead to social unrest at home.

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Precipice of War - We Write Under The Sign Of The Goat

To add as well: Evan has said to me that the reason the war stopped as because the Turks were just done. They managed to play the time game in much the same way Ho Chi Mihn played the time game against America. A physical tactical victory was impossible for the Vietcong and they knew it. However they knew a country could grow war weary and wanted to prolong the conflict long enough that the people demanded an exist strategy. Same thing that happened in the Second World War, almost. As that conflict was carrying on over two fronts the American people were starting to demand out and the US military was having a hard time raising funds to keep up fighting. The war from a day-to-day standpoint was funded through marketing War Bonds to the civilian population. But the War Bonds would only sell provided the American people had faith. And before Iwo Jima (I believe) the civilian moral was getting low. They needed a big victory to feel they had faith in the system so they may get back to funding the US war effort. This is what happened in Turkey, except the Turks couldn't win the ultimate faith-restoring battle they needed in the mountains of Armenia. And let's examine the tactical implications of mountain combat: it's narrow. You don't get a lot of mobility in it. Early on Suleiman may have pulled it off because they weren't as stretched out as they were by the time Evan happened, but when Armenia decided they had enough the Empire was already stretched thin and distressed and the Sultan couldn't have been able to afford to send men in. And the scale at which they expanded at no doubt meant they were able to effectively rule that land. To draw a comparison in antiquity: Justinian's Byzantine Empire. Over the entire reign of Emperor Justinian the Byzantines almost had turned the Mediterranean into a Roman Lake again. However the size of the Empire meant it was unruly and to keep up with its day-to-day means meant it needed high taxes. Same could be said to Suleiman's Ottoman Empire, just with the added benefit of modern-day nationalist and ethnic identity.

Precipice of War - We Write Under The Sign Of The Goat

PoW isn't the type of RP where you can sign up with one nation already dominating another. Only in certain circumstances has this been a thing, in particular Serbia where they were originally drawn with borders that included the stuff Duck claims.

Low-Fantasy RP set in 1914 Paris [High Casual-Advanced]

Also, I'm changing the name. Parisian Assassins is a disgusting name.

@Chapatrap

It is very haram.

Low-Fantasy RP set in 1914 Paris [High Casual-Advanced]

"Tentative maybe" for me. When you presented the concept to me first I didn't think I'd be interested provided I had no clear idea on where to go with the presented premise. But provided I get some lee way to be necessarily directly puppeted by this deity I could do something with it.