Fish of Oblivion

Digimon: Convergence of the Human and Digital Worlds (S11)

mattmanganon said
He did have a host, Siggy served as his host, the DigiEgg latched onto Siggy for the power it needed. Another thing that has already been discussed IC is that there is a link between Digimon and their Digidestined through which energy flowsAnd again, what is the god damn difference between Imperialdramon and BlackImperialdramon... Beyond the fact that you seem to have a fetish for the black one. It's actually counter productive, story wise, the visual differences are minimal, so if someone is going to react to Imperialdramon, then they are logically going to react to BlackImperialdramon in roughly the same way. All you keep saying is "For the sake of continuity" even though, as I have pointed out, using Imperialdramon makes just as much sense, continuity wise.Look, I'm not an unreasonable man (I'm scottish, the word you use for me is "Stubborn Cunt") it's just that you have yet to give a good reason as to why it would be better to use BlackImperialdramon, you've just said that it would be better, for a reason that you haven't really elaborated on. Why would it be better for the sake of continuity to use BlackImperialdramon?

1. Nope. If you're going to make stuff up, please contain it to your characters.

2. It breaks down like this:
- We've already established in-RP that variations of Digimon like BlackImperialdramon exist and are separate from the other species. See; BlackWarGreymon and WarGreymon, Gallantmon and the ChaosGallantmon that Psyker's going to be using in S5 (and maybe S11 too, I need to talk to him about it).
- Last I recall, the species limits on Knights were a thing anyway, which is why Elle and Wizardmon had to absorb the replacement Dynasmon before becoming Dynasmon themselves. Dunno how well this holds up, but if it does, look at the above example- Psyker's ChaosGallantmon is a derivative of a Knight species, and we're totally fine with it.
- Different colourations mean more in Digimon than they mean in other places; here, a black variation of Imperialdramon would technically be a different species which wouldn't be affected by any limits.
- Because it's a different species and we've already got people using variations of a Digimon another person has (i.e- Vo's Gallantmon and to Psyker's ChaosGallantmon), using BlackImperialdramon would basically be changing nothing significant about the Digimon or character itself whilst getting rid of a lot of OOC problems like you using the same Digimon as Psych used for one of his major characters without asking, and a few IC problems like why there's another Imperialdramon running about.

tl;dr- you're changing virtually nothing about the character, but making it BlackImperialdramon actually makes it so that you're no longer overlapping with Psyker and aren't stepping on any existing things

Also, I never fucking said it would change the way people would react to him, please stop being a stubborn cunt and actually read what I'm saying properly.

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mattmanganon said
Ummm...

Yeah, sorry. I forgot you have the sum total communication skills of a bag of bricks.

Also-

mattmanganon said that is exactly what happened to Examon

No it wasn't. He just reformed into a DigiEgg, no hosts involved. For the sake of getting shit done, I'm just going to go with the explanation you just gave, but you're going to have to introduce this concept's relation to the Knights because there is no actual precedent for it in-rp outside of the Ancients. One more futile gesture towards BlackImperialdramon for the sake of continuity too, I guess.

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Did internal consistency leave a flaming bag of shit on your porch or something? Imperialdramon was the goddamn Big Bad of Convergence, don't you think it's just a -little- bit jarring to just up and throw in a completely different Imperialdramon as a hero without even offering an explanation from the outset? Because really, man. If you have an explanation for this, I'm still waiting to hear it.

And considering Psych didn't seem to care about you up and using Imperialdramon without even asking first, I doubt he'd be that bothered about you using BanchoStingmon. Though I don't think he'd work with what you've probably got planned, so meh.

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Vincanity said
Yo Ob, we were supposed to hvae Shaka and Gradrac meet at some point. Still happening?

Yeah, I'll fit it into my next post if I can. Just tired and tapped out on top of being lazy as shit as usual.

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mattmanganon said
Actually, really, the 100% honest reason I initially picked Imperialdramon was because I REEEEEALLY wanted Stingmon, because he is one of my favourite Digimon, and Paildramon is just as awesome, plus, Imperialdramon is, undeniably, his coolest final form. But, that was just the initial reason. One of the biggest things that I wanted to focus on in this is the relationship between Wormmon and Denmon. That relationship will become strained when Denmon starts to fear him, what he can become.As for BlackImperialdramon... Have you seen him? it took me a few minutes to actually notice the difference the first time I saw him. The ONLY difference is that his tail and hands are black instead of blue... Do you want this to be like how Sailor Moons tiara is the ultimate disguise. "Oh my god, your hands are blue OH MY GOD!!! YOUR'E THE EVIL ASSHOLE- Wait... No, sorry, your hands are black, that's fine, shit, for a minute there, I thought you were someone else.If people ABSOLUTELY want me to go black, then I suppose I don't have much choice in the matter, but what i'm saying is that... What real difference does it make? I know you can argue the whole "If it makes no difference then why don't you want to change it?" but at the same time "If it makes no difference, then why are you so gung-ho on me changing it?"

Honestly, the BlackImperialdramon thing was less to circumvent in-story reactions (which could be worked into the character) and more to justify the second Imperialdramon considering the limit. It's a way of basically changing nothing whilst avoiding a handful of problems. It gets rid of the problems that can't be made conductive to the story, basically.

As for him being Stingmon's coolest final form, bitch fucking please.

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oh god it's actually happening

what have i wrought

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mattmanganon said
Not ignoring you, I was just popping in for 5 minutes to answer that, I was planning on responding now, you know, RPG isn't my only concern at the moment.Anyway, my thinking behind him becoming Imperialdramon, as far as the PTSD works, is that, well, he had nothing to do with the Royal Knights incident. As an idea that came to me whilst out earlier, I was thinking that it would actually work for some character development. Specifically, doing what I had planned on doing in the last one with Beelzemon. Since he is now wearing the face of a mass murderer, naturally, the first time he is used, he thinks nothing of it until everyone fucking explodes at him about it. Then, in the next encounter where, really, it would help out a lot if he became Imperialdramon again, but he chooses not to, afraid that everyone is going to explode at him again. Naturally, he's going to be afraid. It's a proven fact that children often inherit their parents phobia's. So, if the people he looks up to scream at him for doing something that comes naturally, E.G. Curiosity about something dangerous, then they are going to get scared. Once bitten, twice shy.Secondly, there is more than 1 of each Digimon in the world. Therefore, this is a completely different Imperialdramon. It's not "Resurrecting Hitler" as everyone seems to be yelling about it's just "Resurrecting an austrian bloke with the Charlie Chaplin mustache." In the end, it'll boil down to Denmon coming to terms with this and saying "I don't care if you think this is evil, I am me, not some asshole that looks like me. He never affected me, so, whilst I can, i'm going to use this form to do some good in the world."

Actually, I somewhat remember us agreeing that the Knight species were limited to a member each by Yggdrasil. Granted, whether that holds up is debatable now that Yggdrasil's dead, but still. I'd go on about how you just decided to use Imperialdramon without asking Psyker first, but he himself doesn't seem to give a shit, so meh. I'll just make one last futile gesture towards BlackImperialdramon for the same of a trivial change making things a little better and leave it there.

As for the rest of it, if you're actually working this into the character arc instead of just randomly picking Imperialdramon because 'muh 02', I honestly won't complain. I actually considered something similar to this for the fic, if that's any indication of anything. Just fish up some reasoning and you should be fine, just try to lay the foundations before building the temple next time.

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So, you're ignoring me. Well, fuck it, I'm used to it by this point. Have fun.

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ohai bebe

how bout dat homucifer eh

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Vincanity said
I will be, but I remember discussing plans but none of them come to mind anymore. OB! What were my plans!?

You were going to have Leon get a sex change and scissor with Elle. :P

Real Talk: I don't remember half my own plans from that period, either figure it out yourself or give me a while.