Flamelord

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Alright Lmpkio thanks for that, I'll go see it soon. I've actually been interested in some of the godzilla movies, but the old american one kinda sucked lol so I was hesitant on the new one.

@Alternax

Not a problem. And yes, the old American one sucks. As a stand alone monster film, its ok, but it will never be recognized as a true Godzilla film. EVER!

@Lmpkio

Captain Gordon 4lyfe.

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Oh look, we have like buttons now.

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Shockwave lost his arm for giving cheese? Most illogical.

@Mtntopview

It was an accident

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...I don't think knowing Charlotte is innocent deep down is going to stop Shockwave from trying to physically hurt her for eating his arm.

@Flamelord

Eh... he had that experience before. Thankfully he was cool in this situation. JUST THIS TIME.

@Lmpkio

True. Then again, that was Grimlock. This is a creature smaller than his finger (I think)

@Flamelord

Wait WHAT? That SMALL?

@Lmpkio

Okay, maybe a couple fingers. Charlotte's not-true form is literally the size of a doll.

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...I don't think knowing Charlotte is innocent deep down is going to stop Shockwave from trying to physically hurt her for eating his arm.

@Flamelord

Eh... he had that experience before. Thankfully he was cool in this situation. JUST THIS TIME.

@Lmpkio

True. Then again, that was Grimlock. This is a creature smaller than his finger (I think)

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...I don't think knowing Charlotte is innocent deep down is going to stop Shockwave from trying to physically hurt her for eating his arm.

RWBY

Yes, but it;s also a major festival. Lots of civilians from around Remnant, people's guard is lowered because they're busy with the festival itself. Think of how much of a propaganda coup it would be to have a major infiltration of the city by Grimm, during what is one of the biggest festivals of the year, in the full view of the world. What does that say about the Vale government and it's ability to defend itself as well as protect it's citizens? Basically, even if they had been defeated, it would have been a massive blow to the reputation of Beacon (For a real life example, look at the Sochi Olympics and the Volgograd Bombings), and it gives them legitimacy and public awareness. And fear.

@Flamelord

I was thinking more like the Iranian Embassy raid or flight 8969, since the tunnel ended literally at the doorstep of what amounted to whatever training facility the SAS uses, rather than a certain heavy-handed regular army garrison.

@Foster

Well, it's not like a bunch of Grimm getting slaughtered is a blow to the cause anyway. It's just a message to Vale that 'hey, we're something you have to worry about'. Besides, add in he White Fang causing havoc, perhaps with those mechs, at the same time, and containing it becomes a lot harder. And if it isn't immediately and efficient handled, even winning can't really be seen as a victory. Is it bad that we haven't even seen the actual Vale army at this point? All we've seen thus far are Ironwood's forces, and they're from Atlas, not Vale.

RWBY

Yes, but it;s also a major festival. Lots of civilians from around Remnant, people's guard is lowered because they're busy with the festival itself. Think of how much of a propaganda coup it would be to have a major infiltration of the city by Grimm, during what is one of the biggest festivals of the year, in the full view of the world. What does that say about the Vale government and it's ability to defend itself as well as protect it's citizens? Basically, even if they had been defeated, it would have been a massive blow to the reputation of Beacon (For a real life example, look at the Sochi Olympics and the Volgograd Bombings), and it gives them legitimacy and public awareness. And fear.

RWBY

You raise a valid point, however now I'm sure Mr Torchwick will make the current lack of access to the robots a moot (yet still quite valid) point.

@Foster

Oh, I don't doubt it. I definitely got the 'I have a plan' vibe from him, which would lead me to assume that some time between the Breach and his getting caught, he got in contact with Cinder, who was rightfully angry about this, but quickly developed a new plan to deal with the altered circumstances. Otherwise, I fully expect that the Breach would have taken place during the height of the Vytal Festival, with all the chaos that that would have brought with it.

RWBY

Why can't it do both, Flamelord?

@Foster

Well, it could, but I made the assumption that Ironwood isn't coordinating his robots over a public communications network. And I'm not sure the kind of AI they have can be subverted by an outside vector wirelessly, unless it just involves switching everyone's IFF tags so the White Fang look like allies and Vale like hostiles. Which would, again, require access to their computer systems, and I don't believe that military communications are handled by those towers. Just public ones.