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Well, there were two legend kills in that run of Allaria.

1. Forsoff being thrown off his feet by a chicken and accidently headbutting a guy in the ass, causing him to slam into a tree and break his neck. (It was hilarious that we all shrugged his death off like, lol w/e he left, in IC haha.)

2. Forsoff instant killing the first Chicken with an axe throw.

You might also remember some of the other bullshit I pulled in that adventure, such as drunkenly fighting Ogre's and having one of them fall on their own weapon and die.

If I remember correctly, we were accosted by skeletons and Forsoff was the only one who actually fought, everyone else immediately went for diplomacy.

I'm pretty sure Forsoff was the only reasonable man in our party.


Giant. Not ogre, if I so recall.

And My character did fight, just the tank (you) did not do your job well.
So kind of like flaws in D20 Unearthed Arcana?

OK that kind of makes sense.

What do you mean by weaknesses exactly? Is it something extra beyond the limitations of a class?
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Cm'on Khan. It's not a baseless claim from my point of view, so no need to laugh me out.

Also, you've perverted the meaning of my own post, since i was making an entirely different point. I genuinely thought you knew of Melon's plan, so what i was trying to say was that while it could've been a predictable move to you, since you've seen Melon fight before, it wouldn't be an obvious one to Tordor at all. From that perspective, it is indeed metagamey.

Basically, my post is an answer to this question:

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I've never fought melon much to the point I know his every move. I mean that would be a pretty amazing trick if I could do it.

Anyway, I originally planned on him getting stuck in the floor, the jumping would have just made it worse. I'll edit it later. Also can someone read it and tell me if it really looks like the entire tower fell? Cause I don't see it but I already know what I meant.

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I can do a NoW tourney.


Can I help? :K
There could be a multi-galaxy map, or something similar to those lines. I'd be more than willing to design a map for this, I love map-making.


Hmm, well technically the multiverse is made up of many different universes and dimensions. Though, perhaps a map of the nexus would work. Which would be quite helpful and appreciated.
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It largely depends on how thick the floor is. I do have doubt in the nether's ability to corrode stone so fast, as it seems to spread in form of flame. In that case, unless the floor has rather large cracks in it, it would take much more than a fraction of a second to penetrate far enough into the stone.

But nevermind all of the above: this move looks quite out-of-character to me in the first place. While Khan may know of Melon's penchant for kicks and knee strikes, Tordor has absolutely no reason to suspect Judgment of such a thing. All Tordor knows, is that one of his opponents is a large behemoth clad in armor and wielding a greatsword - and that isn't a premise from which you could reliably infer a jump attack. On the contrary, Tordor can only expect him to never let his feet leave the ground, using the sword as a weapon instead, as even kicks are seldom advocated in swordfighting, not to mention anything that involves jumping. Heck, Melon even mentioned himself that a horizontal slash to the torso was possible instead of the knee strike, meaning that the prediction is borderline metagaming.

The only way i can see Tordor moving the flame in time to get it underneath Judgments feet, where it would spend just a fraction of a second corroding the stone, is directing all of his attention away from Listia to catch the jump on pure reaction speed.


Well nether is purely a spiritual medium so it wouldn't need cracks. But the issue would be the time it would take so if you say it would take longer that's fine.

Also onto the topic of his prediction being out of character, that's nonsense. The man is a armored giant, using his weight against him is both logical and predictable. Why would he need to know he was going to jump? That' doesn't really make allot of sense, if he didn't Tordor was prepared for that and the secondary effect was a back up plan. Metagming, is using outside character information you PC cannot know. Not accurately predicting how a character will react. It's not like Tordor is an idiot. He's over 400 years old having faced countless experiences.

I'm not even sure how that is even a point to make to be honest, and seems extremely reaching really. That's like saying you can't plan two steps ahead in an arena bout, which defeats the entire point of T1.

I had no idea, as a player, that melon was going to jump, therefore you baseless claim that I somehow read melons mind is to absurd. XD


Ha, based on what? Cause old stonework is the equivalent of magic protective armor or barriers? Nether can't be used in directly like normal energy. Anyway, pointless, I'll wait for a decision from Vordak.

I suppose I should specify on the decimation powers nether has on large objects or areas when using nether charges after this for my sheet.
I didn't think you'd be able to melt through 60 feet of stone of unknown thickness in less than a second, like I said if your character is that powerful Judgement must be similarly strong in which case DJ hasn't responded accurately to the knee strike, which should destroy his character instantly or at the very least launch her far from the battlefield. Hell, why wouldn't you just use that ability to instantly kill Judgement, if you can melt stone that quickly your power is more than capable of killing both me and IN instantly, which just isn't fair for an uncharged attack launched off the cusp.


Well if it really melted through the stone he'd have fallen through it himself. Which is probably the confusion. It weakened a layer of stone allowing it to be more easily broken. Heck if he had kept on running at most a foot would have gotten stuck or something. The place is already ancient after all, flagstone being prone too cracks hardly helps matters.

To even do that again, he'd need to re-sheath the blade and charge it like before. It had one prep by the rules. And such an attack would do little against Judgment or the elf considering their armor.

Edit: I also notice your complaints keep changing, once proven wrong on one topic, you jump to the next. Nice one. It really is pointless arguing with you.
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