Jig

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Does Nassan Falls have a mortal equivalent - and does the soul reach Nassan Falls prior to the underworld? Dinn is conveniently the patron of running water, so it wouldn't be much of a stretch to adapt that into the current set-up. Incidentally, is it legit that a soul not divorced from its body 'degrades'? Edit: also, if the life cycle is indeed a cycle, would it therefore be reasonable for Dinn to preside (even if incredibly passively) over the return of souls to the mortal plane, or would that make his portfolio a little too ginormous?

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Though, in essence, the model of the relationship between the body and the soul is acceptable as the default state of things?

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Thoughts on the body, death, and the soul: I'm currently chatting to a couple of people where Dinn's role as the arbiter of passage of souls to the afterlife has been made relevant, and I've basically had to make up how mortal death in this universe works. Clearly this will depend on the GM (whose blessing I'd like before I make up any more nonsense) and the RPer who finally makes a permanent god of the underworld, but the model I'm working with atm is: The body and the soul are bound to one another physically and metaphysically. Both are fundamental aspects of a person's personality, appearance, and general character. When a person dies, the metaphysical bonds between soul and body are severed, but the soul is still physically tied to the body, where it erodes and disintegrates, until it finds its own way to the underworld. The body itself rots, and does not experience any afterlife. Note that the body and the soul need not be physically bound for a mortal to be alive (see the Exempt for more details), and the release of the physical bonds does not damage the soul in any way. Degradation of the soul is not ideal for the mortal or the underworld, because the underworld likes to take in whole souls in the proper 'format', and damaged souls suffer immeasurably (beyond whatever karma owes them). Dinn's role is to administer the physical divorce of body and soul, such that the soul can safely pass into the afterlife via the gateways in the mortal world (of which there may be several; Dinn presides over the primary one). Should a person's soul be metaphysically divorced from them, they, to all intents and purposes, 'have no soul', and therefore lose much of their personality, will-power, and general character, and generally act as a lifeless zombie. Should a person traverse through one of the gateways to the underworld physically, they are considered to be in the worst possible format, and will suffer an eternal fate that is worse than a fate worse than death (though perhaps the blessing of a god or gods may facilitate this practise in extreme circumstances, because what civilisation does not have a to-death-and-back adventure epic?). Thoughts? Queries? Criticisms?

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Dinn is a bit of a tool not the brightest button in the divinity box, so if anybody's god needs a pawn valued co-conspirator for anything, I can probably throw Dinn the idiot ball to help out. :)

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which I need to chat about with a few people.

@Howler

Including me. :P Did you catch my post on the last page?

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Well, the rules of inheritance aren't strict, and that was part of the consternation. But Sileon is nowhere near the one that Aroesus favored to inherit should something happen. Neither would Aroesus' eldest. It's more fluid than that and has to do with favor and the like. But Sileon isn't awake, and certainly isn't releasing people from Sharzunates. Sharzunates' defenses weakened considerably at the moment of Aroesus' death, and the power to hold deities there was weakened considerably. Those deities may not be able to just walk off, but they can certainly be rescued easily enough now.

@HeySeuss

I think I'm missing something:

Lymaeus, weakened from her births, was smashed down by Ventu, her children shackled along with Aroesus and his siblings for their rebellion. It was Sileon, left free, trusted, who Ventu thought understood the best, who freed them from their imprisonment in Sharzunates

@HeySeuss

Determining your writing level? Casual or Advanced?

To me, I read some of the stuff the more advanced/experienced RPers write and I quickly come to the realization that I am nowhere as descriptive as they are. Until I can start writing like those guys, I won't consider myself 'advanced'.

@TJByrum

This is an important part of writing well, but by no means the only aspect, nor to be exclusively used. Describing everything in laborious detail does not make you a good writer. In fact, I'd go so far as to say, describing everything in laborious detail would probably make you a bad one.

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In other news, I'm struggling to follow the history at the moment, so Dinn's history may traipse along when I get a more concrete picture of the chronology. In particular, I think Aroesus is dead (but not mentioned in the 'official history' currently posted) and that Sileon is now the top dog, but I'm not tooooo sure.

@Jig

Not quite. Sileon is technically the inheritor of Ventu's mythological role (if I interpret it correctly), but Sileon was Ventu's youngest son. If we go with Greek/Roman rules of inheritance, that would actually mean the eldest surviving child of Aroesus or else Svanus (whomever was the eldest) has the strongest legal and traditional claim to the throne of the gods, moreso than Sileon at least. Failing that, I do believe that Mysia was born as Svanus' twin, making her the eldest surviving progeny of Ventu himself. The Dowager Queen of the gods might have a legitimate claim to becoming King.

@Terminal

Either way, we could maybe do with some elucidation. :)

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Proposed relationships for my character, Dinn. Sileon: if I have understood correctly, Sileon released Dinn from his exile in Sharzunates, and therefore earns Dinn's loyalty and Dinn will ally himself with Sileon in most instances. Molydeus: conflict or complementary portfolios (running/contained water vs. all water), and corresponding personalities - a formerly imprisoned god with claustrophobia and a god who is the patron of jails and the jailed. Proposing it was Dinn's anguish in Sharzunates that 'birthed' Molydeus, if the chronology permits Dinn to have been the first god thrown into Sharzunates (Seuss?) Undisclosed God of the Underworld: we'll need to talk! In other news, I'm struggling to follow the history at the moment, so Dinn's history may traipse along when I get a more concrete picture of the chronology. In particular, I think Aroesus is dead (but not mentioned in the 'official history' currently posted) and that Sileon is now the top dog, but I'm not tooooo sure. Also, are you sure you're happy with Dinn's current proposed role in the passing of souls to the afterlife, and occasional inclination to let them stay in the mortal realm indefinitely? Is there any terminology I should be using (soul/spirit/ghost, realm/world/plane, etc)?

Delete a post please? ♫

http://www.roleplayerguild.com/topics/76624-the-heavens-aflame-a-civil-war-among-deities/char#post-2402308 I meant to edit a post but I posted a reply instead. Can somebody delete the original please? Thanks!