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I guess that's at least thinking outside the box.


them gays are ALWAYS thinking 'outside the box.'


Just so everyone knows ahead of December.
So how's about that local sports team?


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I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with anyone about what happened at Warsaw. I just want quantifiable evidence about what happened, specifically from the immediately accessible person that claims to have been there and personally experienced the rallies.


That's kind of a weird tone to take with that person, if you're not taking sides.

Then again it's Andre.
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You do get that I'm not supporting the articles, right? I'm just asking Andreyich to provide the evidence for his claims. If he had just left it at, "Where's the proof that they're pro-genocide?", I would've been like, "Yeah, that's a good point." But, he said that he was actually there when the rallies took place. His personal experience could be evidence, but he hasn't proven that he was actually there to gather said evidence.


Here's where I jumped in:

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Can you explain how, by being in Warsaw when these rallies took place, you know that the 60,000 people which were present espouse little to no views that call for genocide? If you spent just 1 second sampling each person's views, you'd have spent at least 16 hours sampling all 60,000 people. I'm rather skeptical that you accomplished such a feat, but if you have any quantifiable statistics to back up your assertion, I'd love to review them.


So like...... that's not what that looks like to me. The impression I got from that post wasn't "Oh, he's just saying that he wants evidence that Andre was there, and then he'll weigh everything appropriately." What I got from that post, and what prompted me to stick my nose where it don't belong, was "....well like you can't prove that NONE OF THEM were genocidal, with, like, stats or something, so like whatever dude."

Apologies if I'm misreading. It's starting to sound like you would have a similar complaint, if you perceived a post the way I perceived yours.
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The way I see it, Andreyich is making a claim. Without providing evidence, his claim is baseless. I don't care about the articles, but I do care about him claiming that he has evidence that the 60,000 people at the rally espoused little to no views that call for genocide. While his claim isn't necessarily wrong just because he doesn't provide evidence to support it, it's basically useless. I could say that the 60,000 people at the rally espoused the view that the world is flat, and it would be a claim that's equally as baseless and useless as his.


Or for instance, someone could claim that the rallies called for genocide, and it would be a claim that's equally as baseless and useless as his.

You're getting this concept, right? "THEY WERE RACIST." Ho, hum, okay then. "Uh, I was there, they weren't." WHERE'S YOUR PROOF YOU USELESS BASELESS MORON!?!?
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I'm not saying the people that were present at the rallies believe one thing or another. Rather, media articles Andreyich is criticizing are saying that some of the people present were far-right and/or fascist, but he's saying that he has evidence that they espoused little to no views that call for genocide. If he actually has evidence to back up his assertion, I'd appreciate it. I obviously won't ask the writers of the articles for their proof, because they're not here.


You should already have their proof, because that's exactly their job.
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Can you explain how, by being in Warsaw when these rallies took place, you know that the 60,000 people which were present espouse little to no views that call for genocide? If you spent just 1 second sampling each person's views, you'd have spent at least 16 hours sampling all 60,000 people. I'm rather skeptical that you accomplished such a feat, but if you have any quantifiable statistics to back up your assertion, I'd love to review them.


I know I'm gonna regret sticking my nose in this, but that's not how this works. "You can't prove that literally zero people are X" is not an argument.
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You dont know who jason kessler is, so your understandin of the context on a poll presented by him is limited, I dont know how else to tell ya, you need more info. You can be stubborn about it but dont start bashing the thread cause you dont have a decent response.


k.
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