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You're, like...... know what don't go to T_D, it would not be good for you. Moving on.
I'm putting 'news' in quotes because there is nothing new about it. The information they recieve is largely lifted from stories that have already been broken by other platforms such as Fox News, Info Wars or Brietbart. And thats not including them lifting from other subreddits such as r/conspiracy


/r/news should probably also be in quotes then, I suppose. This is how reddit works. This is how news aggregators work. This is how news -- period -- works. Ever wonder why CNN is always citing AP?

Are you saying that you cant get Right Wing/Conservative opinions and talking points from left wing comedy shows?


No.

Dont forget Anti Semetic.


Not that I've seen.

Look overall you are right about the donald being popular, but that wasn't the original claim, it seemed like you were coming at it the T_D was the only place to find opinions that were right wing/populist/conservative.


Lemme just repost it.

T_D is a fantastic resource. You get to see (a) what the fanatics are on about, and (b) what the actual real life media actually really doesn't want you to see. The trick is being able to tell which is which -- but if you can do that, you should really browse T_D. If you can't tell the difference, regardless of what side you're on, you should probably stay away. But also (c) they got some pretty decent memes, albeit with a dash of persecution complex. So you can get sucked in easy if you let yourself.


Full stop.
Not to derail the current conversation, but something that just struck me as an interesting angle, and to understand the company here better, is to ask the question of, "How long have you been 'involved' in politics?" By which I mean more precisely, when did you invest your time and interest in it?


In my elementary school elections I voted for Ross Perot.

Ever since then I've made much better political decisions.
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Let me rephrase what I said, you must have heard of these other subreddits. Again I'm just pointing out to you that the idea that T_D has 100% exclusive content is crazy. They literally lift most of their 'news' from infowars, sometimes brietbart and sometimes fox news. T_D is unique in some ways, but breaking stories that no other sub reddit is touching is just not one of them.


I love that 'news' is in quotes, first of all. Second, just because you can find pigs at a farm, doesn't mean the farm has the best BBQ in town. Third, of course there is unique content at T_D, in the same way there is unique content on RPG, because its users are human beings (unlike /r/esist and that ilk, whose users are bots). T_D also has (by a large number) more users than anything you listed (and most other subreddits), so it stands to reason that it has more original content. Fourth, I never hear these sorts of critiques for the Daily Show or Samantha Bee or Colbert Report or John Oliver -- if they can do it why can't we? And fifth it's irrelevant, I get my actual news from BBC anyway, and if you like I'll explain why.

Last, you know, maybe I'm wrong and there are plenty of places JUST LIKE T_D but better. If you can point out another small-government, anti-corruption, pro-US, conservative forum which celebrates racial differences and LGBT and fights media bullshit, you know.... Obviously I'm into that stuff. Link me, plz. I'll totally go there too. Maybe one that's a teensie bit less islamophobic.
@mdk You must have been on r/conspiracy, Kotaku in Action, Anarcho Capitalism, White Rights r/infowars etc


You make some weird assumptions and I'm trying to decide how I should take them. Leaning towards swiftboating. *shrug* Not important I guess.

T_D is interesting to me because they present facts that get suppressed everywhere else. And lots of bullshit, too, lots of which amuses me. But mostly for that counter-narrative.
@mdk Please don't be making the argument that the donald is the only right leaning subreddit, there are plenty.


OK?
Dont see many memes coming out of CNN, they seem pretty milquetoast tbh.


Well you say that....

right wingers want to make the case that they are calm rational individuals who want to be able to respectfully discuss ideas with everyone and its the Left who are over emotional echo chamber cry babys who cant handle facts, then The_Donald really isn't the best place to justify that characterization.


No, see, for that I'd point you to literally any other political subreddit.

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I went thought there a couple of times. I mostly got the impression it was the sorts of dudes you meet in school who unironically spout memes and try to talk over the teacher. Their opinions seem to be conspiracy theory based for the most part.


largely. It follows a pattern of talking point --> meme --> conspiracy theory --> internet sleuthing --> meme --> piece of insignificant evidence marked THIS IS BIG --> meme --> conspiracy totally confirmed

TBF though that's basically how CNN operates at this point, minus the entertainment value.
@mdk to be totally honest I was just picking the top 3 off topic right wingers I could remember, there is nothing you've said that's particularly off-brand, I remember you quoting a source from The_Donald sub-reddit once but that's it.

Also I should mention that you seem to have actual conservative views and thats miles better than being some broadly politically illiterate reactionary who just blindly agrees with anything that is "Not the feminazis". Like Weird Tales for example.

Keep doing you bro, we haven't got any problems.


T_D is a fantastic resource. You get to see (a) what the fanatics are on about, and (b) what the actual real life media actually really doesn't want you to see. The trick is being able to tell which is which -- but if you can do that, you should really browse T_D. If you can't tell the difference, regardless of what side you're on, you should probably stay away. But also (c) they got some pretty decent memes, albeit with a dash of persecution complex. So you can get sucked in easy if you let yourself.

Curious -- besides anything I've linked you to, have you ever been to T_D? It's better if you haven't. If you haven't, what have you heard about it? I'm wondering if T_D's ideas about their own reputation hold any merit.
I think the right wingers such as pugbutter, mdk, and sleeping silence could learn a lot from you.


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