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That is literally not what the article says, and the article does not have a political agenda I do not believe. It was a harmless bacteria that is common to the animal, and the humidity caused the bacteria that is usually in their respiratory tract to get into their bloodstream where it did not belong.

And while I did not get a degree in zoology, I wanted to and was going to if my university had such a degree, but it's been a fancy of mine since I was a wee lad and I can safely say that plenty of species have come back from the brink of a thousand animals and did not have any debilitating inbreeding, such as the American Bison. It only caused some small problems and was mostly a worry. But there are many well known animals on earth that have a population of 10-20,000 and inbreeding is not an immediate threat. 600,000 is quite a large number for a megafauna.

Edit: Though a quick search does show me that the Saiga are noted to not have a lot of genetic diversity due to a population bottleneck in the Pliestocene, which kinda leads me to believe that maybe it is a factor of both.


This is probably a good time to admit that I didn't click your link -- figured it was a safe skip, because I remember that whole Saiga incident vividly. I'm speaking more generally about alarmism from the papers -- that's one of my "triggers" if you will. "Bad thing happened -- LET'S POSTULATE HOW CLIMATE CHANGE IS RESPONSIBLE AND THEN PUBLISH AN ARTICLE ABOUT IT! Damn the scientists, we have readers to think about!"

It happens, and I blame the publicists for making me mistrust what could be real important info. More recent example would be the latest hurricane season -- climate science came right out and said "WE NEED MORE DATA, this probably has nothing to do with climate change." Less than 24 hours later, everyone wrote their articles anyway, and there "wasn't a political agenda" it was "science."
Hell, I just found this article about how, due to the sudden change in humidity, a normally harmless bacteria has now killed off two thirds of the world's Saiga, because of climate change. Literally 200,000 animals dropped dead over the course of a few days back in 2015, as the world grows hotter.


I remember when that happened. BBC was following that herd for one of their Planet Earth series, don't remember which variant (or if it made the cut, I mean, that's sad shit).

It's absolute horseshit to link that to climate change. Genetic diversity in a global population of 600k is very homogenized (am I using that word right? It's an inbred species). They're vulnerable to pathogens and they caught one. Shit happens. To their credit, the real actual scientists who were on the scene said as much at the time. Apparently, now, someone's throwing that whole mass-death onto the altar of climate change, and the people who are pulling that BS are the reason why I'm skeptical of every climate-change headline ever. Because they're lying.
unrelated...

is the word nibba banned or are you just personally offended by it


Mostly the latter. We don't ban words, but we do have policies against the (very) thinly-veiled meaning.

Mostly the latter though.
The blue and non-white parts of Commiefornia can secede and they'd be doing the rest of us a favor.


Classy.

nibba


Yeah let's not.

Let's define "everyone that's posted in this thread" as a group. Who among us is the leader?


let's change the subject

should we repeal women's suffrage, or just deny women the right to vote


Is there some conceivable way we could do both at once?

Just, ya know, thinking ou.... um... outside the, uh.... box....
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They loved her so much they voted for her multiple times! [citation needed]


My grandfather was actually a big-time Hilary supporter, like, huge. Voted for her in the primaries and the general election.

Of course he's been dead for five years, but that's the kind of popularity Hilary had.
What actual human instances we have were in between having strong leadership and no strong leadership, people would willingly choose the latter category.


Well yeah, a SHITLOAD of people voted for Hilary.
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