MelonHead

Divinity Vs Dazsos!

Well, you were willing to abide by 'you get one prep to a spell' per turn, somewhat. However you wanted to modify it so you could carry out the preparation and earn one prep per turn over consecutive turns, which is still an alteration of the original rules.

You went into a massive tirade about time and IC logic remember, that wasn't you acquiescing to T1E that was you arguing that because you had a time spell it should change in your benefit. So if I was ignorant of you accepting T1E, that's only because you forgot to actually mention it anywhere other than your own mind. Once I realised that you were -somewhat- accepting it, albeit with a hypothetical two prep system, I stopped hammering in the point.

Voiding this fight would serve as a lesson to other people not to ignore all the fucking ranking rules and to not be a dick to your opponent to the point where they leave. If you're not aware of the ranked rules, don't be a judge and ensure you ask someone to judge who does. It says on the very first page that whoever issues a challenge has to set the rules under which the fight is fought, I honestly can't remember where Rilla said 'it defaults to T1E' but I'm going to suggest he adds it to the OP of the ranking headquarters, to ensure this doesn't happen again.

And for the record, unless the fight ended in perfect harmony if Divinity had forced you to leave through further vague sheet bullshit, I would be fighting for the fight to be voided in your favour.

Divinity Vs Dazsos!

I'd say that's more a testament to my free time than anything, not to mention my ability to procrastinate on the dissertation I should be writing.

Technically I didn't debate against your rebuttal, I said it was awe inspiring and too much even for me. But now you've forced me to rebut your rebuttal of my rebuttal of your rebuttal of my rebuttal, I hope you're happy you monster.

We came to a conclusion eventually, but it still required a significant shift in the rules of T1E, which Divinity evidently wasn't going to accept hence why they quit. (Probably spurred somewhat because your responses were growing more and more inflammatory.) To reiterate, you wanted to have two different one prepped abilities activated at once, hell, probably more if consecutive turns allowed. In T1E a prep is supposed to represent intense focus on a single ability until it's unleashed, so for obvious reasons your rune compromise was still against da rulez.

I don't hold T1E to such extreme regard, hell, anyone who knows me would know I criticise it constantly for not making sense. However, if you wanted to fight under a revised version that should have been established from the start. It makes perfect sense for a ranked fight to default to T1E because it's the best general ruleset, so later arguing for a change to the rules to gain an advantage seemed like the essence of bad sportsmanship, to me.

What I actually think, is that in a ranked fight which has lasted over a month, for one player to resign without being at any real disadvantage suggests that an underlying problem exists. I know from reading this fight that Divinity didn't just quit because they're busy, or because they were losing, but because your conduct was growing intolerable. No one deserves a victory for ousting their opponent in that fashion, and the fact that you want to clamour for the victory is dissapointing to me. There would always be other fights, but now anyone reading this fight is going to be like 'well, do I really want to fight this guy if he goes to this length to earn a win?' Which is a shame. If my dissapointment in how things turned out and my belief that this sort of conduct should be frowned on by an official ranking system is elitism, then fair enough.

Divinity Vs Dazsos!

All I did was explain how T1E works, the fashion in which you wanted to use it would have given you an advantage, which is literally the antithesis of everything T1E stands for. No one is supposed to have an inherent advantage within the system, regardless of how their powerset works.

If by explaining something as simple as 'no Dazos, you don't get to gain an inherent advantage using the balancing mechanic just because your character uses runes rather than magic beams, that would be idiotic' caused the entire argument, then I'm 100% not sorry in the slightest.

Perhaps I should have said 'at the risk of continuing the argument further' then. Though the fact that you're rebutting me calling you out on your belittling language is really quite awe inspiring. I love a debate as much as the next guy, but debating the debate about how you debate is really too far, even for me.

Anyway, this is Rilla's problem now. I have literally no stake in this, but I was dissapointed that it ended this way.

Divinity Vs Dazsos!

Not to continue the argument further, but don't belittle my points from the outset Dazos. 'Every little detail' would suggest that you didn't clarify what clothes you were wearing or something. Not that you failed to establish what rule-set you were fighting under nor that your character was going to be using a special version of that ruleset, nor that you were going to suddenly jump up to high tier mid-way through the fight.

These aren't little things.

Divinity Vs Dazsos!

So, issues. Can everyone state their case for me. I'm going to be reading back anyway.

@Rilla

The only thing to decide is if this match should count as ranked at all, my thinking is that it probably shouldn't be because:

1. No rules were decided upon at the start, causing arguments over if T1E should be applied.
2. No judge intervention from the start, which meant no one ensured rules had been decided upon, and that sheets were suitable.
3. Corban's sheet was incredibly vague from the start.
4. Fight ended due to arguments over the rules, Divinity left first, but you could make an argument that Dazsos' conduct in creating and prolonging the argument rather than seeking judge intervention shouldn't warrant a win. It's understandable for fights to grind to a halt due to IC conflict, but it shouldn't happen because of an argument over rules.

You'll have to read it for yourself and listen to Dazsos and Divinity's arguments. Personally I don't think anyone deserves a win from this fight because it was a shambles from the beginning. It might have recovered, but as I suspected from pretty early on skipping over important structural necessities at the start just made it overly messy.

The World of War: Central Hub/Main Thread/Chen's Tavern

Well, if you read the OOC you'll see people posting their characters first before posting IC, and even a short discussion around if someone could post before they were accepted, where I explicitly state you should wait for LeeRoy to OK your character. That's what I meant.

Innue vs Melon

I'll work on a reply when the post is posted in IC and finalized, so I know it's the finished product.

The World of War: Central Hub/Main Thread/Chen's Tavern

@LeeRoyI'm slowly piecing the profile together so it is a work in progress. I'm doing a lot of coding and saving as I go so I don't lose it. Sorry again for just going off of one person who wasn't the GM. I don't know what I was thinking. I guess I was just excited.

@Holy Soldier

Sorry if I misled you I guess, I took for granted that you'd read the OOC and get a hang of the guild's admission process. I thought you were asking if the RP was open, essentially.

The World of War: Central Hub/Main Thread/Chen's Tavern

Goddamnit @ImportantNobody my character's called Liu, not Chen!

Create-A-Hero: A Superhero RPG (Closed)

Getting that mad new influx of players, things are looking up after Raptorman's departure.