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Reading books while driving is a good way to expand your knowledge
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I hate the part of the world that uses "lollies" to refer to candies
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Imperials go home
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"What if you told a joke and somebody laughed?"
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I enjoy peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, but hold the peanut butter and jelly. Hate condiments on my sandwiches.
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@rezay As much as I'd love to accept the agriculture thing, having livestock and workable agricultural lands which can grow all these crops would put you miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiles ahead of everyone else. The ruins that NJ lives in can hardly sustain any sort of farmland - few places outside of the Haven biome can.

For example, where did the seeds for these crops come from? Ruin biomes are leftovers of megacities and wouldn't have natural plains of wheat, corn and potatoes that hadn't already been snatched by mutants or roaches. What forests there are there wouldn't necessarily have fruit trees, and whatever animals live in these forests would have to be tamed and domesticated. Have they kept animals inside the bunker with them all these years? How have they not died from inbreeding, starvation or the Jerichians eating them all?

It's nice that you're motivated to write all this lore for your civ, but keep in mind that they only just recently came out of a bunker into a world that is virtually Mad Max/Fallout/Chernobyl/Megacity 1 mixed into one. Resources of all kinds, especially food and water, are rare as all hell and coveted by literally everyone.


Well, the thing is that NJ isn't located inside the ruins biome. They set up directly outside of it, on account that it's very hazardous terrain and all. The bunkers which would have seen them through the apocalypse weren't located inside the city, but in close proximity to it.
Animals are from whatever's left roaming around. As stated in the post, everything they have *(theoretically) was found wild— again, not to impose more than is necessary, but what type of livestock would be around, if not what the old world had?
If you'd rather NJ be inside the ruins, that's fine, but I would have to rewrite a lot.
I didn't know what might have survived the apocalypse, this why I left it up there for you to look over.

*Let me clarify, even with the RNJ NJ was only located partially into the ruins. Before I was sure of pop, I had it as a sort of shantytown hat expanded from the southern half of Old Jericho. But it was never fully in that biome

Also, I'd really appreciate an approximate sort of timescale for when things have happened, it seems like that's a point of confusion. If things are really that recent. then when did this big plague thing happen? It's supposed to be something which occurred at the least two or three decades ago, lasted for at least somewhere around a decade, and growth which had occurred before it took place in about half a century. At least in my mind. It's not like they're exactly new there, they've been around close to a century and just got set back reeaallly hard, at least as the story currently stands.

My impression was that crops grown by humans didn't immediately die out in the apocalypse. I mean, if they all did, then how is anything able to be grown? I'd hate to induce extra work, but if normal crops can't be grown because they aren't around anymore, then what is grown in their place?
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Boy, so many questions. Many will need to be answered in-RP! Very exciting, can't wait for things to really get rolling. Can't say it too many times.

Glad I got reminded about the question of weapons technology, I forgot to ask the GM about that one.

*Thinking about it now, I'm going to add some more information to the NJ sheet. Stuff about agriculture, daily life, existing industries, and different sub-groups within the town. More deep lore stuff, will probably post it here once I'm done. Will probably end up retconning some of it in the near future as well, but it'll be interesting nonetheless

*Also, about the book/document stuff earlier, it's a big possibility that some were brought into the bunkers by the Old Jerichians. Perhaps there is a tiny library of pre-apocalypse texts. That sounds like something I'd need to hash out with the GM though. What do you think, @AdorableSaucer? :)
Also, I assume that there are wild versions of crops that humans cultivated before the apocalypse, ones which haven't changed much. I really don't want to be all nit-picky and go into too much detail about how things work, though, after a while it's just not fun anymore.

*Update: NJ sheet has been updated with proposed agricultural practices, glance over them if you wish, glorious GM @AdorableSaucer
Social hierarchy will be less potentially controversial

On that note, I'm taking suggestions for whatever the Jerichians call their famous (well, currently only to them) corn whiskey :P
I have no idea, but I think it would be a fun commodity for them. Maybe one day they'll be selling fire water to the ogres or something

OH! Another question regarding time, GM, what time of year is it currently in the RP (start of turn 2 I suppose)? Spring? Summer? Fall? Winter? It's going to be important for some story stuff I'm going to do in this next turn
@Dark CloudYeahhh, I'm not much for it either
@Dark Cloud... I've... Never watched the office...
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I'd like to ask, for all of those 200 or 2000 years those documents have survived, how many more papers and books do you think we've lost to time? How many of them do we not eve realize we lost? Those documents are the exception, not the norm and if there's just going to be a magical fix that some how everything the players need is magically preserved in good condition in someone's basement, that kind of takes the fun out of things. Its fun to have to adapt and not have everything given to you on a platter in advance.


I know, and I did mention that. They're like fossils. Maybe there are less than 10 sites like this on the entire map. But it's something the GM might have considered, and I won't count it out, unless the GM confirms it's not something that can happen. I don't expect to find any such documents myself, except by some freak accident. There is no motive here except sheer speculation on what could possibly happen

*They might not even exist, the GM hasn't said anything about them. If they don't I'm cool with that.

*Not to mention that maybe there's only one such site on the map, and the only books that were preserved in it were trashy romance novels. The documents don't even need to be relevant to some project the player is working on, they would be completely random. To find such a document that helps you in a quest would be astronomically improbable. I don't know
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I think this statement is incorrect, as the ogres are smoof brain gang.


Well, maybe not the ogres then :p

*Their population is generally small as well, I'm becoming more and more skeptical about their chances against the other factions, late-game... I guess they'll have to hope they get lucky, hehe
@Dark CloudI feel like ogres should have natural radiation resistance

*Side note: I'm thoroughly enjoying this discussion. Very thought-provoking and entertaining
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modern warfare is extremely complex. Command and control, logistics, military formations, etc, are all apart of conducting large-scale military operations. But at this stage, warfare is nothing more than raiding and extremely small skirmishes.


I know, that's self-evident. Look, you're all forgetting that there's a shit-ton of distance between all of us. By the time we come into contact (and are in a position to attack one another), we're going to have the infrastructure and know-how to move supplies and personnel over substantial distance, as well as the population to field armies of thousands, maybe some tens of thousands. It's the application of that to warfare that will be difficult.

*And it might not even be that difficult. We'll likely have made our way there by defeating NPC factions that were in our way.
@Dark CloudThe fabled green place :D
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