thewizardguy

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@tex
Wow, you make a good point. That's WAY too fast. Assuming his arm moved a distance of approx 1.5 m over the course of 5 microseconds, he was moving at about Mach 100. Although not quite as fast as what you stated, that's still WAY too fast to be allowed in the RP.

Magna shouldn't even be able to go that fast, as the fastest Ultimates are around Mach 5. And Magnaangemon doesn't possess any abilities that boos his speed in either the anime or the games. So that's fairly bullshit right there.

@Gun
It's really nice if you think that keeps the fight even, but being able to move at Mach 100 makes your character far too powerful for any other character currently in the RP besides perhaps Bayonetta. Your mech already has a stupidly overpowered weapon, and some of the best durability and strength in the entire roleplay. There's no need to give him flash-level speed as well.

@dirty slime
Try to avoid using terms like microseconds, or making up new attacks for your chars they're not supposed to have.

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@Moonman
Nappa is way too powerful for this rp. His base speed is around Mach 10-20, which is ridiculously high when currently the most powerful chars are moving at around Mach 1 base.

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@dirty slime
Force Storm's greatest feat is destroying a fleet. Sure it sounds impressive, but what does it actually DO? In terms of usefulness, being able to annihilate planets is way beyond his force storms. And the force storms usually just teleport people anyway, which makes them EVEN LESS USEFUL.

What is your concept of the Force? It's not like the Force is divided over all Force Wielders, and the more of them there are the weaker they are. It's the primal energy of the universe, the life force of all things. Even all the Sith in the Old Republic combined probably weren't wielding more than a fraction of the total sum of the Dark Side. Shit, by your logic, if there are enough powerful Sith it's impossible to become a powerful Sith, because they've already taken most of the cake.

Revan's feats put him on-level with the likes of Yoda as one of the greatest Sith of all time. A warrior capable of using the Neutral side of the Force, overpowering entire strike teams of Jedi Masters with relative ease. Revan was ridiculously skilled, the kind of warrior who'd be able to annihilate Vader with both arms behind his back. And Vitiate casually burnt him to a crisp.

Of course, he also annihilated an entire team of Jedi Masters, consisting of some of the most powerful Jedi in the galaxy, by breaking through all of their lightsabers at once with a single lightning storm. He then broke their wills moments later, turning them into slaves to his will.

Tools and Darksiders? Not at all. He ruled an entire empire, but he fought alone. Usually against the members of said empire as they attempted to betray him. Betrayal doomed Sidious. But Vitiate psionically learned of his betrayal and proceeded to one-shot the Dark Council, the 11 most powerful Sith in the entire Empire. To give you an idea of how powerful these guys are, a battle between two members levelled a palace the size of a city block, which just happened to have been built to withstand heavy assault.

Sidious mind controlled an entire planet to a minor extent. Vitiate controlled an entire world, instantly, at a whim. He broke the minds of hundreds of Jedi, among them the most powerful Jedi in the Galaxy. And unlike Sidious, he does this mid-combat. No mild confusion bullshit, instant complete domination of the mind. Vitiate was so powerful that merely brushing against his mind was enough to cause most Sith to have an epileptic attack, including people like Darth Bane. Sidious might maintain his control for longer, but Vitiate is able to control mid-fight with ease, over an area the size of a planet, in addition to breaking the wills of some of the most powerful Force Wielders in the galaxy.

He was so powerful that his body could hardly contain him. But after he died, he just resurrected himself, and continued to wreck shit.

While in a weakened state, Vitiate was able to casually deflect the lightsaber of one of the galaxy's greatest fighters with his bare hands, not taking the fight seriously at any point during the fight. What's Sidious gonna do when his saber bounces off of Vitiate? Assuming Sidious is able to move before he gets simultaneously mindraped, burned to a crisp and drained into an empty husk.

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@Savato
Personally I put her somewhere around Mach 50, but I only have limited knowledge on Naruto.

@dirty slime
All Sidious has is a statement that he's the most powerful. But Vitiate, by feats, annihilates him.

Sidious drained a planet over an extended period of time. Sidious instantly life-wiped an entire planet, including dozens of Jedi Masters and incredibly powerful Sith. He mind-controlled an entire planet's population at once, and unlike with Sidious, he does it instantly, and then makes the planet's population start killing one another. And he also mind controlled 8000 Sith at once, and performed another planet-wide lifewiping attack, although that one was a ritual. Vitiate's lightning was so powerful that Revan, a master of Tutanamis capable of absorbing lightsabers and lightning from elite Sith, was burned to a crisp just trying to absorb it. Vitiate was able to bare-handedly casually swat away the lightsaber of one of the most powerful Jedi in the galaxy, and broke the minds of Jedi masters with nothing more than a glance.

Sidious ain't got shit on Vitiate.

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@Savato
Again, I'd say she can draw from an infinite 'pool', but is limited in her application. Chakra could hypothetically do anything, as just pouring more chakra into an attack increases it's destructive capability. But there's no indication she can do anything beyond planet busting.

But I think we're mostly in agreement here. Infinite mana pool, limited power of spells.

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@dirty slime
His reactions aren't FTL. Not even close. The best feat you were able to mention was precog-dodging a Mach 1000 attack (high-end estimate) while in a space ship. There's still nothing that puts him even remotely close to FTL, even with precog. And precog dodging means he was dodging the aim of the people firing the weapon, meaning it's a Mach 2-3 feat with precog (high-end estimate, again). Any being moving Mach 10 or faster would be able to easily adapt to that, meaning precog-dodging would no longer work because he'd be unable to move his body to keep up with what he knew what was going to happen, and the faster entity could adapt to any defence he could put up.

By comparison, high-end feats for Naruto put them in the Mach 20-50 range, with Kaguya at the top of that or beyond. Meaning she's 5x faster than the highest end estimate I could possible give the Sith.

Sure, but it takes time. And Kaguya was able to achieve a similar feat instantly. Considering Sidious' limited use of TP in battle, I'd say chances are he wouldn't be able to mind control Kaguya, especially as her mental defences and powers are probably well beyond anyone Sidious ever fought besides Luke.

Probably the only Sith who has a chance here is Vitiate.

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@Gentlemanvaultboy

"Are you.... offering me a job?" Darquesse blinked. This was certainly new. She'd killed a lot of people (a LOT of people), and none of them had ever decided to offer her a job. Especially a job in what appeared to be a Star Wars-esque galactic empire of sorts. The second most stunning part of this entire situation is that the idea of this job was sounding kind of enticing. She didn't really need a mech, of course, but despite this she really wanted one. She'd always loved the shiny toys. "You know, I kind of like you. But I don't work for anyone. I just happened to see things exploding, and figured it'd be fun to join in." Darquesse explained her situation, shrugging as if being transported into an alternate reality was an everyday occurrence for her. It wasn't, of course. But he didn't need to know that.

"So, let's say I accept this job. I get to have a mech, and all the cool toys I want. And judging from the situation..." Darquesse waved a hand at the mass battle occurring not too far from where the two stood "you want me to go and punch all of those guys, right? Yeah, I can do that." She chuckled, as she realized this was her first job offer. In her mundane life she'd always expected to end up working at McDonalds. Who knew she'd be soliciting for fighting space battles? This day was getting more and more interesting. "The name's Darquesse. Some people call me the Worldbreaker, but I like to think we're on a first-name basis. So I'm thinking ima go punch all those folks, and you tell your people to start building me that mech, yeah? Make sure it's black. I like black. Fits with the theme, you know?"

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@Archmage MC
So you're stating that Kid Buu was a mutant with a difference appearance who altered his appearance based on what he ate, and the altered appearance just happened to exactly coincide with the original form of his species? That's nonsensical bullshit, and I'm rather glad he chose not to introduce that to the DBS universe.

Calling the Frieza family mutants is also a weak link, and doesn't make much sense. Xenoverse as a whole is fairly nonsensical, and shouldn't be introduced to canon.

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@Savato

Multiple characters have claimed to be omnipotent without actually possessing the power to back up the claim. Thanos claimed to be omnipotent after retrieving the Infinity Gauntlet, but he was still weaker than the Living Tribunal, and far weaker than TOA. And in this case also many other sources claimed him to be omnipotent, or to possess infinite power.

Kaguya is most likely incredibly powerful, but there are no feats that would put her beyond planet buster. It's possible that she was able to draw from an infinite pool of chakra, but is only able to channel a certain amount at a time. Regardless, statements are no indication of a character being omnipotent, and if you're going to seriously debate her power you'd need to back her up with feats.