Vilageidiotx

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@Vilageidiotx I do find it slightly funny, that not a single person seems to bat an eye when someone just continues to do nothing but personally insult me. And it's always avoided, but the moment I feel like joining in. THEN everything has gone too far.

I keep getting fucking reminded of when people used to bully the shit out off me in school and me getting equally in trouble, solely because "i was there" so must of done something. This kind of, "it takes two to fight" is fucking wrong in practice and in sentiment. And the bias is only getting a little fucking sad...<.<

I'm sorry but does context not fucking matter to anyone at all? If a man stabs another man sixteen times, and the other mortally wounded man finally stabs back, should both be ashamed and at fault to equal degree because in essence. "BOTH STABBED SOMEONE" Does reason and logic seriously not come into play here?

You cannot honestly pretend that, it is even remotely equivalent, unless your being incredibly dishonest and disingenuous.

@SleepingSilence

Dude.

This is the internet. This is how it plays out. I think you take it too much to heart. Like, if Dynamo was fucking with me in the same way, i'd just make stupid jokes. The "That's my favorite channel" comment is how you play it, that was a good comment. But if you don't want to argue, just don't argue. Especially if you don't want to. And if you do argue... well, now you're partly at fault. It's like what my mother would say when I get into shit with my sister as a kid, "It takes two to tango."

B!tchfest: a healthy release for our non-roleplay annoyances.

Why is this thread now the home to every US-centered political debate in the Guild? This is supposed to be a place where everyone can bitch their heart out without being judged or being insulted by anyone else! This is a place where we can be as ugly as we want to be and not feel like shit! I propose we take all the saltiness and we move it over to the ocean where it belongs. Make the Guild great gain.

@Frettzo

I think we need a thread that is just @SleepingSilence and @Dynamo Frokane screaming at each other. It'd be like the Guild version of cock fighting.

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And without trying to sound insulting I don't think a degree in psychology was the best course of action from a market standpoint.

@Dinh AaronMk

Oh no, I absolutely agree. That was a product of my stupid assumption that I needed to keep my options open and that getting too specific a degree would be a bad idea. Realistically the opposite is true. One of the problems with our education system, albeit it is a minor one, is that you are sort of pointed in the direction of generalized degrees. Hell, you see that with people who get Math Degrees or Biology degrees, where they assume it is a difficult sciency subject so there will be jobs a-plenty, but the reality is they are too general for a job market that rewards specialization. Yet for whatever reason there isn't much of a structure in our education system to point people toward career based programs. I had some excuse because I started school before the recession, but even now you talk to kids and their college plans are very often pretty generalized.

I don't think there is an academic degree though where the degree is in itself the key to success. You might be able to enter a career program that'll do something on its own, but with degrees it seems like it has to be part of a larger career plan. Hell, the advice i've given people since has been to the tune of "Fuck college, go to technical school or get a certificate in something."

As for Graphic Design... I can't help but think that's one of those things that'll be automated soon. Weird thing to say, but all you got to do is near-automate copy for advertising firms and that job scatters. That's going to be the big problem going forward; what careers won't be automated, what careers will be flooded as automation takes hold, and what (if any) careers will survive or thrive in a post-automation world? Either way, I don't expect the 21st century to be as economically stable as the 20th was, and I suspect most people are going to be stuck thinking on their toes.

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As it turns out, going into college with the same mentality as I had in high-school did not work and I got a rude awakening when my financial aid was revoked.

@Dinh AaronMk

The crazy thing is, I got good grades in college. It was actually sort of strange, I was basically self educated after about 11 years old (that's a story of its own) and got a GED when I was 16, but grades was never an issue. I didn't even really have to study much except for math, though even that is partly because math grades hang so heavy on turning in homework.

But I come from poor folk where all my life the people surrounding me saw a college degree as sort of a magical thing. There aren't many college educated people in my family; the few with Bachelors Degrees besides myself mostly got them when they were in their forties, otherwise it's all high-school degrees, trade school certificates, and two year degrees. So where I screwed up wasn't grades, that was easy. It was making some sort of concessions to actually turn the degree into a career. After all, the working class poor folk mythos is that you get a college degree of any sort and shit is taken care of. Of course, I also started college in 2007, so my college career happens to match up with the recession in an ugly way. But all the networking and internship stuff? Didn't think it was pertinent.

Guess the next user's kink.

Depends on the group. Send me a group and I'll get back to you on that.

Schadenfreude?

How often do you say 'fight me'

i don't. i'm a motherfucking pacifist.

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Pull part-time like me and you have nothing but time.

@Dinh AaronMk

I probably should have done that. Not like graduating ever did much for me.

B!tchfest: a healthy release for our non-roleplay annoyances.

Imma say two things that are only vaguely related because, I dunno, the subject came up at it doesn't look like it's going to go anywhere else productive so fuckit.

1: I was thinking about the Post Office thing, and you know, I don't know if you can really pry it from the government. I know that's not what @SleepingSilence is driving at, but the thought just seems worth saying anyway I guess. One of the big reasons the government is so deeply concerned with the Post Office is because it is still a useful government program for the government. Like, all the buying stamps to mail letters that used to go on, that was paying to keep the service in place and all of that, and now personal mail like you said is being taken up by the internet. But the other purpose of the post office is to have an organization in place that the government can use as an inter-office courier service. I know the post office and the IRS work in tandem from my time being employed by the latter, and you can see how that would be extended. So even in the odd event the Post Office was privatized, it's replacement would probably end up in a comparably sembiatic relationship with the government for that reason. That might also explain (aside from employement stats) why the government is so worried about losing it.

2: Also, regarding the FCC because it keeps coming up, their main job isn't censorship. That's just something they are known for. Their main job is to maintain and police laws regarding the use of communication networks. The original purpose comes from back in the old days when analog broadcast signals were king. Broadcast signals aren't solid things, and there are ways to overpower them, hence the use of policing. I suppose the most famous example of overpowering a broadcast signal is the Max Headroom incident.

But even that particular incident isn't their main goal, since an individual managing to overpower WGN's broadcast is altogether odd. The main sort of thing they would be focused on is, say, keeping NBC from putting up a few towers and overriding all of their competition's channels in a specific area so that theirs is the only signal coming in. They presumably deal with equivalent shit regarding satellite, cell-phone tower usage, and cable. So there is a reason for that particularly organization to exist, even if, you know, they make you take a tinkle when you want to take a piss.

B!tchfest: a healthy release for our non-roleplay annoyances.

@Vilageidiotx Well I couldn't even pretend to be busy, my whole weekend was screwed up. So I literally had nothing better to do. #NoLife (I mean I was listening to music, so at least I was multitasking. <.<)

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In case you were being serious.

I'll throw ya bone, if you want to rebutt what I wrote. Fuck going through all of it, You only need to do two things. Explain, why the Post Office is the perfect example of government efficiency. (and is not a completely bankrupt, 100 billion in debt and nearly obsolete program, and how government taxing emails to fund the post office is a good idea.) And how that in anyway helps/or even correlates to the argument of socialism in medicine...

I implore you, please don't try...

@SleepingSilence

Well, I'm on the way out so I'll just say what first comes to mind. With the postal service, we aren't talking about a new-fangled liberal invention, we're talking about one of the first government organizations founded in American history. I mean, Benjamin Franklin was the first Post Master General. Not only that, government funded postal systems date back to the Achaemenid Empire in the 500's BC. In all that time, now is when it becomes inefficient and impracticable? Something needing reform doesn't mean it needs to die and never be born again. I won't argue there isn't corruption here, but that doesn't mean we need to hand the entire system over to aristocratic control.

As for socialized medicine, the big issue in the United States and the reason support for it is picking up steam is because there is a multi-billion dollar middle man in the insurance industry that would be eliminated by a real socialized system. That's why Obamacare doesn't really work for anybody but the people who couldn't get healthcare at all before; it doesn't address the insurance industry, it basically just subsidizes them. I said before, after all, that I like Obamacare in a morbid way because it has made it difficult to maintain private healthcare insurance without being unpopular (since you either have to rip access to healthcare from thousands of people to repeal it, or you have to socialize it) but I do not live under any illusions that it is a good thing on its own. After all, I'm paying 120 a month for that bullshit along with the rest country. And I'm paying it, of course, to a private insurance company. In a public system, people making multi-billion dollars off the system would be seen and correctly assuaged as corruption. In a private system, the guy becoming a billionaire is the purpose of the system and medical care is an afterthought put in place to maintain his revenue, and only as much as it maintains his revenue.

Guess the next user's kink.

if i had those i wouldn't be on internet.

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