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The Unpopular Opinions Thread.

Trump or Clinton will still punch the middle class in the gut either way.

@Verdaux

This is definitely not an unpopular opinion. They have historically low favorability ratings for for a reason.

The Unpopular Opinions Thread.

It may be set in motion, and there may be no stopping it, but this doesn't mean it should be supported. Johnson puts his name behind it, as though to make people think it's a good thing, simply "because free market" or some other buzzword nonsense. At the very least, he can be honest with the American people, and tell them that they're getting a bad deal. Bernie was open about that. Even if Trump wins, and lets it pass, at least he's letting us know that we're getting fucked. Gary Johnson is only helping the elite stay in power, and keeping the public uninformed about what's killing their jobs, driving wages down, and letting trillions of dollars flow out of the country.

And now the cat's out of the bag, and the TPP is so hated that even Hillary has to pretend to be against it, yet Gary is still standing by this deal that everyone knows is bad for them.

I seriously think that what people love about Trump (aside from the wall and the Muslims, of course), is that he's open and straightforward about why we're being fucked, how we're being fucked, how long we've been fucked for, and how hard the thrusts are. I've never heard any other politician talk about the logistics of how China abuses the world's free-trade agreement by artificially devaluing its own currency, to make it impossible for western countries to compete in manufacturing. Trump actually did that, and no one ever gave him credit for it.

@Jotunn Draugr

Discounting Johnson because, being a Libertarian, his ideas about economics are cartoonish and can be dismissed off hand, it isn't strange for politicians in the US to denounce the TPP. It doesn't particularly stand out with Trump. Opposing those sorts of trade agreements gets you points with working class Americans, and a lot of people have been at it for a while. As you pointed out, Bernie did it, as has a number of people of the fringes of both the right and left. It's more common to hear on the ground I suppose, among local politicians in their campaigns. It's the centrists that have been pushing it.

It seems disingenuous to me, however, for somebody to come out against TPP and then push a bunch of right-wing BS behind it. If you are trying to help the working class, you are not coming from that direction, because there is no way any of that can ever help anybody but the aristocracy. If he was, like, flanking the Sanders camp from the left, maybe I could have got behind that, but coming from the right makes it come off less like something he really gives a shit about and more like a populist carrot right before the reaganomic stick.

Not to say Clinton cares, but shit, I'm not voting for her either.

Yes she's 55, but I really don't think she looks it. She's got those cheekbones or something, and she's actually got a pretty great body if you see her in a tight t-shirt and shorts... just sayin' (daaaayyymmm). Plus, she's charismatic as hell.

I never really liked the method of charisma favored by the right. Like, the entire Nuremburg rally style, where you act really really mad and nasty about trivial shit, it has always just annoyed me. It annoys me when the left tries to copy it too. I know i've seen her do that, and O'Reilly of course... and Hannity and Limbaugh have a version of it. And there for a while MSNBC was playing at a left wing version of it (they might still be but I haven't paid attention to them for a while). And it is especially grating to me to have that sort of anger presented by, like, some rich-ass pundit. You give me a poor motherfucker on the street and I'll feel his emotions, but if your put some yacht-owning piece of shit on there yelling like they've ever did anything meaningful with their lives, and all it inspires in me is nostalgia for the old guillotine days.

The Unpopular Opinions Thread.

@Vilageidiotx Actually it's not "Business as usual" under Pence because should a president be impeached and convicted (impeach just means to bring up the charges) both the president and the VP are forced out of office.

Then if the presidency is filled by the rule of succession, the US House Speaker becomes president.

My suspicion would be a special US election would happen.

@Pfroggy1

That's only if it is the election itself brought into question. If the President is impeached due to something that he does while in office, and the Vice President isn't implicated in the wrong doing, then the Vice President takes over. Out system treats those involved as individuals, so the Vice President isn't going to be charged with a crime the President alone does.

Gary Johnson would sign the TPP, nuff said. It's gotta be Trump. Anyone who's willing to support the TPP, either doesn't know what it'll do, or doesn't give a shit about the American people.

@Jotunn Draugr

Trump will most likely pass TPP. He'll either whine for a few weeks then pass it saying he had to compromise to get his wall built, or he will veto it, allow it to be reborn later on in different clothes, and let it slip by in the political off season. TPP is one of those things, so pre-ordained by American capitalism, that there is no holding it back. The forces for it are simply waaaaayyy too strong for the forces against it to succeed. The best victory you can hope for is to change the name. Will it fuck over the American people? Yes. But there is no stopping that short of figuring out a way to kill capitalism wholesale, which is a tall order to say the least.

Don't know if I've said this before, but there's something inescapably sexy about Ann Coulter.

Isn't she, like, 60 or something?

The Unpopular Opinions Thread.

If Trump actually acts like Trump while in office, I suspect the Republicans might go ahead and allow an impeachment to proceed the first time he acts too Trumpy. They'll wine and make a fuss of course, but secretly free up votes to support it so they can go business as usual under Pence.

But what is more likely (well a Clinton presidency is still most likely but beyond that) is that Trump will be out of his league and the Republicans will leash him.

The Unpopular Opinions Thread.

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Its only really republicans/right leaning voters who get angry over stuff about the 2nd amendment.

I will say that America's craziness in global media is not undeserved.

@ClocktowerEchos

not really. It is more a town and country divide. I'm pretty fucking far to the left and I'm pro,gun. I've known sjw type liberals who sleep with a gun in the drawer. Its more complicated than left and right. What you see on the far right that is different is the "They're taking all our guns so they can enslave us" conspiracy theories

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