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The bottom line is that the abilities you've given Rose, the application of them that you've described and your attitude towards abilities in the RP in general makes Rose constitutes the powers and abilities of a second or third generation god rather than a Demigod.
The point I am trying to make is something that is fairly evident to me but has to be something that you understand and agree to and to be honest I'm getting the impression that you're a lot like me in that when challenged you'd argue to doomsday before admitting to being wrong. It's something that I'm trying to work on so instead of continuing this I'm just going to leave it at this: Rose has too many different abilities which are only linked to Demeter in a general sense, if you can't see that I can't do anything to make you see.
Out of curiosity though, did you actually read the Percy Jackson books? Cause a lot of the arguments you are making make a disturbing amount more sense if you've only seen the movies.Everyone else
Is this a problem for anyone else? Cause if I'm the only one that's bothered by it I'll shut up right now.
Also on an unrelated note there seems to be something wrong with the QUOTE function on the guild after the latest update. The quotes are all misaligned and the text doesn't fall under the right name mention if you're quoting a post that has a quote in it. Just thought I'd let you know.
I agree with you man, demigods should not have several abilities like an actual god. I pick one ability that makes since and any other ability that comes with said main ability. Basically if your character is super strong then invulnerability would make sense. If your character can maniuplate the wind then flight makes sense as well
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It seems like Rose has four (possibly five depending on how you divide them up) spheres of influence only one of which actually falls under the realm of her godly parent. Earth is the domain of Gaia, Water belongs to Poseidon, Ice falls under the influence of Boreas: The Cold North Wind, and Healing is one of Apollo's virtues. Only the plant manipulation actually falls under Demeter's abilities.
I can sort of see how you got to each of these,
Earth: Plants grow in the earth so Demeter has some measure of control there
Water: Plants need water to live
Healing: Growth is the process of a plant evolving and repairing itself
The ice abilities become a little more of a stretch. I think the logic goes something like this: Artemis is the goddess of the moon, the moon shines primarily at night, at night the temperature drops, ice forms in cold temperatures thus Artemis controls ice.
The Artemis abilities are the ones that bother me the most. In mythology Artemis is basically only the goddess of the moon to serve as a counterpart of Apollo being the sun god. While a number of his myths involve him driving the sun chariot and so forth Artemis' relationship to the moon is basically limited to her being the sun's twin and no more. She is much more strongly identified as the goddess of the hunt which is what the majority of her stories are about.
Leaving aside however whether Artemis has the kind of domain Rose's character sheet seems to indicate the real problem is her passing those abilities on to her followers. The Hunters of Artemis as we're using them in the RP originate almost entirely from the Percy Jackson book series. They're essentially a merging of the choir of Nymphs and Oceanids that Zeus gifted to Artemis with the idea that any female who joined Artemis on a hunt was required to swear a vow of chastity (the men who joined her on hunt usually ended up dead). In the myths there's no mention of Artemis bestowing special powers on those she hunted with and in the Percy Jackson books the abilities granted to the Hunters was immortality and the training that goes along with joining a group of people who have been hunting divine beasts for thousands of years.
Which kind of brings me to my next issue. Why is Rose severly under trained in the realm of hand to hand combat and archery? She is quite literally a handmaiden to the Goddess of Archery. Why would she be sent off on a solo mission to Olympus Academy if she's such a junior member of the Hunters that she can barely fire a bow?
Okay that went on a bit and I'm really not trying to make you feel bad but I just want to make this point:
The kind of logic that seems to be involved in giving Rose several of her abilities is the same kind of logic that could justify any demigod being able to control the domain of any other demigod no matter how far it is from their godly parent's actual sphere of influence. For instance: Poseidon and Zeus seriously hate each other right? The sea kids shouldn't have any possible way to influence the sky and air kids shouldn't have control over the sea. And yet using this type of logic Poseidon's demigods can control the air because water exists in the air as vapor. Likewise Zeus's demigods can control water because water molecules are one third oxygen.
It creates serious problems over who can do what when a demigod of the harvest is controlling the earth like a primordial and water like a sea god. My best guess is that given the level of some of the other character's powers being able to manipulate plants felt a little bit weak in comparison. That I get but instead of tacking on a bunch of extra things that only sort of fit why not instead focus on the godly parents primary attribute and just run wild with its possibilities.
For example this is a list of some of the abilities of one of the daughters of Demeter from the new Percy Jackson books.
<Snipped quote by Percy Jackson Wiki>
I know this doesn't sound all that impressive but think of it like this. Rose could carry around say a half dozen different seed pouches that spawn a variety of plants. In battle she could thrown down six watermelon seeds which rapidly mature into two pound watermelons that then launch themselves at her enemies like catapults. Smaller fruit would work too, I mean getting pelted with over ripe peaches so they splatter all over you isn't good or under ripe mangos so they're hard as rocks.
In a bind she could cause ordinary things to start growing again. Think of the amount of natural material that goes into basically everything nowadays. She's running from bad guys and as she runs she causes the floorboards beneath her feet to grow into thick clingy branches that block the path of the person or thing chasing her. Get creative with it. You don't need to tack on a hundred different abilities, just one or two really powerful ones.[/hider]
I know I don't really have the right to ask this but is there any chance you guys could go back through your character sheets and put in more specific details about there powers and abilities? A lot of them are kind of vague and I'm just really worried that when we get to the PvP stage of the RP (as RPs like this will inevitably go) its going to be like when you played make believe as a kid and wanting desperately to not be outdone by your friends when he makes a big weapon you make a bigger one and as you go up the scale the weapons get bigger and make progressively less sense until you and he are wondering how you got where the game ended up.
That could be mitigated somewhat by more specific powers being written down including limits to those abilities, such as instead of putting down just the header "Necromancy" you specify what kind of undead you can summon, if you can do it anytime or require set circumstances, how many you can control at once, if there is a risk of them escaping your control. That sort of thing.
Obviously I have no authority here and you are more than welcome to simply ignore everything I've said. I just think it might be a good idea to keep the RP functioning smoothly down the line.
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Rose has the power to control earth and plants because her mother is the goddess of agriculture and is responsible for making the earth fertile and the water/ice manipulation from artemis was an idea I got from the one because of her connection to the moon her healing can be explained with ever one of her powers I could go the healing with water route like Persy or with growing healing hurbs and plants or a combination of both as for the fact that I am technically stepping into the domination of other gods demigods don't have to abide by the same rules as the gods they don't have set domains so a child of poseidon had water manipulation by extension they could control ice as is is just frozen water demigod can steal the power of gods so crossing into the domain of other gods if your power allows it is not only possible but not even a big issue compared to stealing a gods power as for her fighting skills the hunters of artemis are gifted with excellent range capabilities and hunting skills no mention of hand to hand or weapon skills her powers give her the ranged skills and she is good at hunting and tracking think about the what you could do with earth/planet manipulation alone creating vines to attack or bind people firing each spikes creating earthquakes to knock people off balance if you heat up the earth you can create molten rock or lava you can tune earth into sand and manipulative that heat up the sand and create glass you can manipulate the earth particles in any impure metal you can create armour out of plants and hardened it so it's as tough as steal ect so she is more then capable of keeping up out Artemis and the hunters on a hunt thee only reason I decided to take the suggestions to take a power from luner manipulation was because of the possible combinations between earth/plant manipulation and water/ice manipulation and I have already demonstrated the power of ice manipulation her weakness is close range compat simply because I thought giving her that weakness give her new mentor something to teach her and become it makes her more fun to play as after looking up the gifts Artemis gives her hunters I can't find anything other then immortality and ranged and hunting skills so if I had known that at the time of making the character I would not of given her anything from luner manipulation
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I would assume that a child of Gaia would have more power
<Snipped quote by Prince of Seraphs>
It seems like Rose has four (possibly five depending on how you divide them up) spheres of influence only one of which actually falls under the realm of her godly parent. Earth is the domain of Gaia, Water belongs to Poseidon, Ice falls under the influence of Boreas: The Cold North Wind, and Healing is one of Apollo's virtues. Only the plant manipulation actually falls under Demeter's abilities.
I can sort of see how you got to each of these,
Earth: Plants grow in the earth so Demeter has some measure of control there
Water: Plants need water to live
Healing: Growth is the process of a plant evolving and repairing itself
The ice abilities become a little more of a stretch. I think the logic goes something like this: Artemis is the goddess of the moon, the moon shines primarily at night, at night the temperature drops, ice forms in cold temperatures thus Artemis controls ice.
The Artemis abilities are the ones that bother me the most. In mythology Artemis is basically only the goddess of the moon to serve as a counterpart of Apollo being the sun god. While a number of his myths involve him driving the sun chariot and so forth Artemis' relationship to the moon is basically limited to her being the sun's twin and no more. She is much more strongly identified as the goddess of the hunt which is what the majority of her stories are about.
Leaving aside however whether Artemis has the kind of domain Rose's character sheet seems to indicate the real problem is her passing those abilities on to her followers. The Hunters of Artemis as we're using them in the RP originate almost entirely from the Percy Jackson book series. They're essentially a merging of the choir of Nymphs and Oceanids that Zeus gifted to Artemis with the idea that any female who joined Artemis on a hunt was required to swear a vow of chastity (the men who joined her on hunt usually ended up dead). In the myths there's no mention of Artemis bestowing special powers on those she hunted with and in the Percy Jackson books the abilities granted to the Hunters was immortality and the training that goes along with joining a group of people who have been hunting divine beasts for thousands of years.
Which kind of brings me to my next issue. Why is Rose severly under trained in the realm of hand to hand combat and archery? She is quite literally a handmaiden to the Goddess of Archery. Why would she be sent off on a solo mission to Olympus Academy if she's such a junior member of the Hunters that she can barely fire a bow?
Okay that went on a bit and I'm really not trying to make you feel bad but I just want to make this point:
The kind of logic that seems to be involved in giving Rose several of her abilities is the same kind of logic that could justify any demigod being able to control the domain of any other demigod no matter how far it is from their godly parent's actual sphere of influence. For instance: Poseidon and Zeus seriously hate each other right? The sea kids shouldn't have any possible way to influence the sky and air kids shouldn't have control over the sea. And yet using this type of logic Poseidon's demigods can control the air because water exists in the air as vapor. Likewise Zeus's demigods can control water because water molecules are one third oxygen.
It creates serious problems over who can do what when a demigod of the harvest is controlling the earth like a primordial and water like a sea god. My best guess is that given the level of some of the other character's powers being able to manipulate plants felt a little bit weak in comparison. That I get but instead of tacking on a bunch of extra things that only sort of fit why not instead focus on the godly parents primary attribute and just run wild with its possibilities.
For example this is a list of some of the abilities of one of the daughters of Demeter from the new Percy Jackson books.
<Snipped quote by Percy Jackson Wiki>
I know this doesn't sound all that impressive but think of it like this. Rose could carry around say a half dozen different seed pouches that spawn a variety of plants. In battle she could thrown down six watermelon seeds which rapidly mature into two pound watermelons that then launch themselves at her enemies like catapults. Smaller fruit would work too, I mean getting pelted with over ripe peaches so they splatter all over you isn't good or under ripe mangos so they're hard as rocks.
In a bind she could cause ordinary things to start growing again. Think of the amount of natural material that goes into basically everything nowadays. She's running from bad guys and as she runs she causes the floorboards beneath her feet to grow into thick clingy branches that block the path of the person or thing chasing her. Get creative with it. You don't need to tack on a hundred different abilities, just one or two really powerful ones.[/hider]
I know I don't really have the right to ask this but is there any chance you guys could go back through your character sheets and put in more specific details about there powers and abilities? A lot of them are kind of vague and I'm just really worried that when we get to the PvP stage of the RP (as RPs like this will inevitably go) its going to be like when you played make believe as a kid and wanting desperately to not be outdone by your friends when he makes a big weapon you make a bigger one and as you go up the scale the weapons get bigger and make progressively less sense until you and he are wondering how you got where the game ended up.
That could be mitigated somewhat by more specific powers being written down including limits to those abilities, such as instead of putting down just the header "Necromancy" you specify what kind of undead you can summon, if you can do it anytime or require set circumstances, how many you can control at once, if there is a risk of them escaping your control. That sort of thing.
Obviously I have no authority here and you are more than welcome to simply ignore everything I've said. I just think it might be a good idea to keep the RP functioning smoothly down the line.
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Rose has the power to control earth and plants because her mother is the goddess of agriculture and is responsible for making the earth fertile and the water/ice manipulation from artemis was an idea I got from the one because of her connection to the moon her healing can be explained with ever one of her powers I could go the healing with water route like Persy or with growing healing hurbs and plants or a combination of both as for the fact that I am technically stepping into the domination of other gods demigods don't have to abide by the same rules as the gods they don't have set domains so a child of poseidon had water manipulation by extension they could control ice as is is just frozen water demigod can steal the power of gods so crossing into the domain of other gods if your power allows it is not only possible but not even a big issue compared to stealing a gods power as for her fighting skills the hunters of artemis are gifted with excellent range capabilities and hunting skills no mention of hand to hand or weapon skills her powers give her the ranged skills and she is good at hunting and tracking think about the what you could do with earth/planet manipulation alone creating vines to attack or bind people firing each spikes creating earthquakes to knock people off balance if you heat up the earth you can create molten rock or lava you can tune earth into sand and manipulative that heat up the sand and create glass you can manipulate the earth particles in any impure metal you can create armour out of plants and hardened it so it's as tough as steal ect so she is more then capable of keeping up out Artemis and the hunters on a hunt thee only reason I decided to take the suggestions to take a power from luner manipulation was because of the possible combinations between earth/plant manipulation and water/ice manipulation and I have already demonstrated the power of ice manipulation her weakness is close range compat simply because I thought giving her that weakness give her new mentor something to teach her and become it makes her more fun to play as after looking up the gifts Artemis gives her hunters I can't find anything other then immortality and ranged and hunting skills so if I had known that at the time of making the character I would not of given her anything from luner manipulation
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I would assume that a child of Gaia would have more power
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Gust
Gust was taking a bit by surprise when he heard Aster say that he too was a son of Astraeus, that meant they were half brothers.
"The only thing I know about our dad was that he gave birth to the four winds, which is probably why I can do this," Gust then made himself lift up into the air by manipulating the air currents to levitate his body. He stayed up for a moment before letting himself land gracefully on the ground.
"I can control the wind" he explained to them. He was surprised to learn that there was also a children of Gaia who was a goddess that predated even the titans.
"I didn't know Gaia could have children. You must have some really incredible powers" he said to Soren with a bit of curiosity in his voice.
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Its cool man I'm just waiting for the other guy to post then I'll post mine!
I'm at work so I won't be able to post until later
@Weird Tales We're full right now, and I've already accepted more players than I originally set out to. If there's any early drop-outs I could bring you in. At first glance it's a nice character sheet.
~KL~
Okay. I'll be checking up on this so if a spot opens then give me a mention
I would love to join this. Here is my Demi-titan turned superhero
Name: James Harrison
Alias: Night Walker
Age: 15
Powers/Skills:
Life force manipulation: James is able to manipulate the life force energy within himself and animals and plants. With this power he can attack a foe's life force instead of physically harming them. These attacks can be both close and long ranged, but longer ranges are very difficult for him to do at his current stage of development. For example if James makes contact with a light slap or punch he can attack their life force and cause a good amount of harm. He can also use his powers to help keep a person from dying by keeping their life force within them flowing, but this ability does cost energy and he will suffer from fatigue and the ability will then end. A side effect of his powers is that he can live far longer than any normal human being and ages a lot slower after hitting adulthood. Also he has a resistance to necromancy and can combat the magic when used against others.
Equipment: an ancient Greek sword
Weaknesses: The biggest weakness to his powers is that they require him to use his own life force to access them so if he taxes his life force energy too much then he could slip into a coma or even die.
Experience: he has only a few months of experience
Alignment: reluctant hero
Personality: Individualist, inquisitive, realist, brave and aloof
Appearance:
BRIEF Bio: James was born in New Orleans Louisiana and from an early age he felt different from everyone else. Strange things would happen around him and it made him afraid. Plants would wither and bloom when he was near. Other kids felt very uncomfortable around him as if his presence affected their very souls.
He had asked his mom before about why these things were happening, but there was a reluctance in her tone of voice as she told him that she didn't know what was going on. James could tell that she wasn't telling the truth and he would find out the truth no matter what.
While at school one day James was picked on by some of the bullies and it got violent after he insulted them. While reacting in self defense James' mysterious powers activated and put the bullies and six other students into a coma. Kids who saw what happened screamed in terror and pointed accusing fingers at him.
The authorities were called and they took James home where they explained the situation to his mother. He was suspended from school and the police wanted him to stay home until the investigation into what had happened was complete. To the total surprise of the authorities, there was no sign of any severe damage or toxins in the student's bodies. What ever had been done to them was not anything that medical or forensic science could explain.
He wasn't found guilty of any crime, but the school still felt that it was best that he stay out of school for a bit. James was scared and confused at the turn of events in his life. His mom knew that it was time to tell him the truth about his heritage and his father.
And so James learned that his father was Iapetus the Titan of mortality. He learned that his father like all of the titans were not respected like the Olympians and that regardless of whether he was with normal people or demigods, he wouldn't be truly respected. With this new large of knowledge James finally had an answer to his questions. After the incident at school, his mother decided that they would move to Gotham city and it wasn't long until James decided to use his powers to fight crime when he saw it. He took the name Night Walker and started his rookie career as a vigilante.
How did you meet Batman: During a raid on one of Black Mask's drug shipments.
Notes: [anything else you need to tell us?]
Name: James Harrison
Alias: Night Walker
Age: 15
Powers/Skills:
Life force manipulation: James is able to manipulate the life force energy within himself and animals and plants. With this power he can attack a foe's life force instead of physically harming them. These attacks can be both close and long ranged, but longer ranges are very difficult for him to do at his current stage of development. For example if James makes contact with a light slap or punch he can attack their life force and cause a good amount of harm. He can also use his powers to help keep a person from dying by keeping their life force within them flowing, but this ability does cost energy and he will suffer from fatigue and the ability will then end. A side effect of his powers is that he can live far longer than any normal human being and ages a lot slower after hitting adulthood. Also he has a resistance to necromancy and can combat the magic when used against others.
Equipment: an ancient Greek sword
Weaknesses: The biggest weakness to his powers is that they require him to use his own life force to access them so if he taxes his life force energy too much then he could slip into a coma or even die.
Experience: he has only a few months of experience
Alignment: reluctant hero
Personality: Individualist, inquisitive, realist, brave and aloof
Appearance:
BRIEF Bio: James was born in New Orleans Louisiana and from an early age he felt different from everyone else. Strange things would happen around him and it made him afraid. Plants would wither and bloom when he was near. Other kids felt very uncomfortable around him as if his presence affected their very souls.
He had asked his mom before about why these things were happening, but there was a reluctance in her tone of voice as she told him that she didn't know what was going on. James could tell that she wasn't telling the truth and he would find out the truth no matter what.
While at school one day James was picked on by some of the bullies and it got violent after he insulted them. While reacting in self defense James' mysterious powers activated and put the bullies and six other students into a coma. Kids who saw what happened screamed in terror and pointed accusing fingers at him.
The authorities were called and they took James home where they explained the situation to his mother. He was suspended from school and the police wanted him to stay home until the investigation into what had happened was complete. To the total surprise of the authorities, there was no sign of any severe damage or toxins in the student's bodies. What ever had been done to them was not anything that medical or forensic science could explain.
He wasn't found guilty of any crime, but the school still felt that it was best that he stay out of school for a bit. James was scared and confused at the turn of events in his life. His mom knew that it was time to tell him the truth about his heritage and his father.
And so James learned that his father was Iapetus the Titan of mortality. He learned that his father like all of the titans were not respected like the Olympians and that regardless of whether he was with normal people or demigods, he wouldn't be truly respected. With this new large of knowledge James finally had an answer to his questions. After the incident at school, his mother decided that they would move to Gotham city and it wasn't long until James decided to use his powers to fight crime when he saw it. He took the name Night Walker and started his rookie career as a vigilante.
How did you meet Batman: During a raid on one of Black Mask's drug shipments.
Notes: [anything else you need to tell us?]
James
James was at first impressed to see a child of Oceanus, but when Araluen told him that she was a hunter for Artemis he wrinkled his nose in a slightly repulsed manner. A demi-titan being a servant for an Olympian?! Where was this girl's pride? he thought to himself.
"How on Gaia''s earth did an Olympian allow you to join her hunters? Aren't you aware that they will probably become our enemies soon?" he asked her with a very serious tone to his voice. James did give Rose a simple nod when she introduced herself as a child of Demeter. He still couldn't really believe that a demi-titan would willingly work for an Olympian.
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Gust
Gust was still mad at the prank that Mordred had pulled and it seemed that the demigod would probably try to do some more terrible mischief in the future, but for now Gust would need to focus on his schoolwork and training. He then heard a loud thud and followed to see what it was. It turned to be another student who Gust had guessed was also another flyer that had trouble with landing. The newcomer was with another student and Gust decided to go and say hello to the two boys. He walked up to them and gave a friendly wave.
"Hi. I see that you are also here to attend this school. I don't like school, but it seems like my dad wanted me to come here to learn more about my immortal heritage and control my powers. Anyway, the name's Gust Anderson. I'm a demi-titan son of Astraeus the titan of dusk" Gust said introducing himself with a playful bow.
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