White Feather

~Gakuen Kill: Academy of Assassins~

@White Feather@Spriggs27@Mcmolly@TheWindel

Huh... guys, what's the point of this discussion, again? If I remember well, said episode involving Alice and Lucifer didn't even happened on this RP world, so... why is that?

@KoL

I'm just going through an existential crisis. I'll feel better when I've had some coffee and got a post up. Probably shouldn't take much of this seriously, my parts anyway.

~Gakuen Kill: Academy of Assassins~

@White Feather

I agree blood passes on, and I guess I gotta use more examples to get you to understand something. Let's say this, there is a child with a parent that abuses them and over time even tries to kill or get rid of the child, wouldn't you hate the parent ? But the child grows up to be possibly the best humanitarian on the planet, would you hate them ?

Let's use another example, Child grows up with a nice family possibly the best people you could ever meet, but the child then grows up to be a shit head or just a psychopath, do you hate the parents for their shit head kid ? or do you hate the kid.

What I'm trying to tell you is Don't hate another person's character because they are related to another person, hate the character that caused you to hate them, it would be like me liking DSP when he's not playing a game, but then turning around and hating him for playing my favorite game, and Windel I didn't mean to bring up DSP it's just another vid of him playing some old game got into my inbox again.

I don't care what kind of beef you have with Alice, I know you don't like her, but don't have your char come at Doughnut without proper reasoning.

@Spriggs27

Really, I shouldn't hate anyone. And I wouldn't hate a good child as much as I hate their bad parents. But I do still hate, and I will still dislike the child.

All of this is personal opinion. Lucifer is not W.F. Luci doesn't know the things I know. And chances are, Doughnut and Luci's paths will not cross, or cross sparingly. W.F. will continue to despair of Donna, but Lucifer won't. Fear not. This is what I meant when I said 'My personal opinion won't filter into the RP'

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@White Feather
Yeah but right there is the "wow what" part of the problem. Adult or child, enacting revenge on an objectively innocent party by association is where the moral gray line seems to get a bit clearer, if you know what I mean?

@Mcmolly

I'd see that as the guilty person's fault. It's covering one's tracks. Moral ambiguity won't hold a candle to practicality. Sometimes, things need to be done that are horrendous and disgusting and no-one should ever have to do or be put through. I wish it wasn't like that, but it is. Sometimes, we have to bury the good guy to let the monster come to the fore, for our own sake. Morality is for those fortunate never to have come into a situation where one must choose between morals and practicality.

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And if I seem like a depressing shit, I just finished Spec Ops: The Line today. I'm not exactly in the happiest of moods...

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@White Feather
Hey man absolutely, I'm just saying it's a widely-regarded faulty system often associated with tyrant-style behavior. Like a self-fulfilling prophecy kinda deal, you punish the children for their parents who in turn punish your children for theirs. Revenge as a concept in general is a pretty tricky moral subject, but it's still pretty clear to see "good" and "wow what" when you observe it.

But hey, just my two cents. Two cents never made anyone rich lol

@Mcmolly

On the contrary. If you do revenge correctly, no-one remains to take revenge - adult or child. It's Machiavellian, yes, but also very pragmatic.

But thanks for your two cents. We use Pence here, but what the hell... XP

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Well then. As long as Luci doesn't do anything to spite Donna for the sheer fun of it, it should be fine. Because regardless of your personal mentality, these are fictional characters doing fictional actions. Despising someone because of something that is not in their control is pointless and redundant, but to each their own.

@TheWindel

Trust me. That would go against Lucifer's whole 'unambigous good guy' theme.

There are so many flaws with the "Sins of our fathers" mentality lol

@Mcmolly

Hey, if God is allowed to punish every human because of two people's mistake, I can do the same.

@White Feather

W.F, Revenge is a path of blood that get your friends killed and leaves you a brooding mess at the end of it all, I'm not saying you don't have any right for getting revenge for what happened to you, I'm not even saying that you shouldn't hate someone or a fictional character, but if you want someone to hate then it's Alice, not Donna, you shouldn't put your hate onto someone else because they share blood.

@Spriggs27

Blood passes on. Children inherit their parents' traits. I reserve the right to remain apprehensive of people with bad parents in case it's in the blood. And all things considered, Dana was no saint either. She wasn't Alice bad, god no, but she wasn't someone you'd care to meet in a dark alley on your own

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Hmm. While that does make sense, that's still mindless hatred and not enough justification to loathe someone that has done nothing towards you.

@TheWindel

All hatred is mindless. There are lots of people I loathe who never affected me - history is full of them. I don't hate them any less.

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@Spriggs27 @TheWindel

As Adam Monroe famously said "Parents Sin, Children Suffer". She has Alice in her. I therefore despise every part of her that is Alice. 50% of her, to me, is unforgivably tainted.

Simply dying isn't enough for revenge. They have to suffer. But you can't suffer when you're dead. Don't you see? But now there is someone to suffer. You want to know who? The murderer's daughter...

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Alice isn't here, and like I've said before I'm sorry about what I've done to you and don't mean to upset you W.F

Donna is Alice's spawn is all I was mentioning and saying, along with if Donna cheated in fights Alice would accept Doughnut as a her child then.

@Spriggs27

Oh, my dear Spriggs, you misunderstand. My hatred for that futa piece of shit graphically well-fleshed out character is not a reflection on you as either a person or an RPer, but a general hatred of self entitled little twats evil characters like her fictional self.

But now I have to hate Donna. Apologies.

:P

EDIT: My personal tastes will not filter into the RP. Fear not.

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@Spriggs27

Alice?

Vá lamber o cu da sua mãe...

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So, erm... Lucifer is Nagato Yuki? Do you happen to know that she's girl (actually, an alien biological robot, to say the truth), right? Unless you wanna say that Luci is really Lucy, or a trap? No one never knows.

@KoL

I'm aware. But Luci is meant to be Bishonen as hell, so I thought 'who could I get away with as a base for a pretty, androgynous male character with short purple hair?'
The decision was obvious.
On a side note, Luci's edited portrait will have Bishie Sparkles. Be afraid. Be very afraid.

EDIT: And we're clear! Now with added sparklyness for all you Twilight fangirls to squee over.

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Had to edit the 'Lucifer' portrait by phone. Sorry for the low quality