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Except it quite literally can't. The way it's structured prevents that by nature, unless you want his Verse to be a sub-copy of sorts of Existence in it's entirety, though that doesn't explain how it's structure differs from Existence proper. Like, again, the person who wrote that CYOA essentially made a Myriad Reality of their own so to speak, in that it's scale and scope are similar, but more broken thanks to Living God builds.


Their Myriad Reality is not our Myriad Reality. Superimposing the CYOA on Existence is practically rewriting the rules of Existence with the CYOA's, which I don't think would be in good faith.
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Because this CYOA literally deals with beings, Living Gods, that are well beyond omniversal in scope.


One can scale up as many times as one wishes—omni, all, upper, transcendental. It can still fit inside of Existence, if it's within its own bubble. Like Meta said, that CYOA can fit in its own, sub-Existence omniverse. We have designed Existence so it is not subject to eternally increasing scale problems.
Now I should clarify that my arc for him isn't one of conflict necessarily, it's more him learning how to be a king. A good king preferably, and him learning how to confront and earn the royalty his ascension has given him. So if we really wanted we could simply have him not fight anyone. It's not like he can die, or if he does, suffer any real consequence from it after all.


If he were inside his own Verse underneath the umbrella of Existence, perhaps we could have him go out into wider Existence, to sympathise with his people by understanding what it feels like for those who are not perfectly powerful, who don't have complete control. That's one suggestion, at least.
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I mean in this case you can realistically say they're aren't any other Living Gods, because mine is the only build here. Plus his own Verse is another Plane, using the terms here anyway, so the problem of how powers work is more how they translate between two separate Existences.

And don't get me wrong, I see the balance issues, but that's the thing. He's a god, gods aren't meant to be balanced. Not real gods anyway.


I don't think using another Plane is the right solution, here. The same thing could happen in any other Existence. No Existence where something like a Living God is possible is likely to remain in existence for very long. A Plane may have been suggested before, but I think we should switch it to a level of reality underneath the umbrella of Existence, so that in general Existence he doesn't have such power.

You're right about that on balance. But the kind of balance we advocate for in MR is not a balance of rigid numbers or rules, but a balance of fairness based on mutual trust built on a history of fair relations. We balance each other by our desire not to overstep each other, to have fair interactions. I don't mean to call anyone out, but the exchange where (it is implied to me) Ded tries to destroy Zachary and Zachary "just casually ignores that" is not a fair interaction by either party, but also is a natural and expected interaction when a character like Zachary has unlimited power.
@Caldizar

We designed MR's universe system to be able to incorporate godlike entities that are part of fandoms, by tying their powers to their universes (or multiverses inside of Existence). Outside of those dimensions, they do not have that level of power. If we say they can—well, your character may not want to get involved with the rest of Existence's battles, but we cannot say, realistically, that there are no Living Gods who will share that indifference. If any universe's godlike beings could exert that godlike power over Existence, it would long since be destroyed or enslaved.

Based on this reasoning, it would be best to keep his godlike powers in-universe. Even though he's part of a fandom where his powers are godlike in an entire Verse, that "Verse" should again be in its own layer underneath the umbrella of Existence.

(But! I would not go so far as to say that this should eliminate his powers outside of his dimension. If I were trying to figure out the power, I'd see it more as a supreme control of self but not necessarily the things around him. This might mean invulnerability of a certain kind (which one of my characters has!), but it wouldn't mean the ability to control someone else's person at will, or to create an attack of perfectly irresistible power, both of which would lead to the balance issue I mentioned earlier.)
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Santa Claus asked me to do him a favor and deliver these for him here.

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The experience helps. It is a fine art.

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Better than ever. How're things on your end?


You passed the doorway by a fine margin. It is a large doorway, too, so well done.
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The small little box on top.
*Shifts the stack such that it falls, and I kick it out of the air toward you*
Help me out with it.

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One of many. How goes it?

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I trained many years by forcing myself to only take one trip for carrying things places.


The young ones in the Shift have picked up this mantra when carrying things: "One trip! One trip!" It doesn't often work.
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*Kicks in the door holding a stack of wrapped boxes way taller than both myself and the doorframe, and I lean back to limbo myself and the boxes through*


Well done, Sven! *Grins* Admirable flexibility.
This is him.


I remember he met Misty. How did he meet her again? I'm thinking of what ways I can put him together with one of my characters.
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