Willy Vereb

On The Brink of Instability (and we're off!)

@Monochromatic RainbowI am busy with 3 other RPs for now so nah.
you'll see my approach to the tech when I update my NS.

On The Brink of Instability (and we're off!)

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That's actually what I was planning basically, when I said kinetic bombardment I didn't mean WMDs and such, basically just the en masse bombardment, like naval arillery but in spaaaaaaaace.

As to the ships, the Confederation does have those, and in fact most of their military power is space based, though there's a tendency to favor kinetic energy weapons over directed energy, though they certainly do have many of the railguns that'll launch plasma projectiles.

@Monochromatic Rainbow

Well, if you have a Type 1B kind of ship using its full reactor output for a railgun like mechanism then you can be sure that the end result would be a stream of plasma.
personally i have one such idea where a few terajoules of energy is released intantenously in a rail or coil gun system and the acceleration renders the few kilograms of tantalite into a thin stream of superheated plasma traveling at thousands of kilometers per second.

On The Brink of Instability (and we're off!)

@Willy Vereb You actually make excellent points, and I will concede that you know more about this than I, and I haven't put a lot of thought into this, which I intend to rectify. So if my plan is Swiss cheese, I'm not surprised.

I am however, reluctant to use nukes because of their connotations, and wonder what you could suggest as an alternative to an easily interceptable weapon like a "Rod from God" and a weapon like a fusion warhead (and I am aware of fusion's lack of fallout) with the connotations it carries.

I was actually thinking spaceship batteries, but again, I haven't been able to put too much thought into military matters.

@Monochromatic Rainbow

I think at roughly equivalent level of energy everything looks like a nuke, so the connotations would be there.


On the other hand who needs weapons of mass destruction to begin with?
Their power is mostly just a waste and they are mostly good for terror.
Although well if you do need a weapon for terestrial bombardment then I do suggest kinetic bombs. That is nothing but dropping random mass from space. Or if precision is required use smaller munitions but en-masse.
Good'ol missiles can also help but most of the time their explosive content would be an unneded surplus for terestrial bombardment. Gravity would accelerate the misile to such speed its own KE would be greater than the energy of its explosive.
They say anything at 3km/s carries its own mass in TNT explosive power.
Alternatively if you have a Type IB ship (big-ass fusion reactor thus sufficient energy output) you may try to snipe down to the surface via lasers and particle weapons. Whichever makes you feel better.
You can empty gigajoules of energy with ease which is kind of equal to dropping a 1000lbs bomb.

On The Brink of Instability (and we're off!)

@UnfortunatelySay that to the Dinosaurs.
Dust clouds high in the atmosphere can lead to environmrntal catastrophes including but not exclusive to mini iccice ages.
Also dust powder in your lungs is a very serious healh issue, just ask people who know about volcanic catastrophes.
Heavy metal particles are even worse and nah, they would contaminate the landscape for long and you won't be happy for it. Check reports on the Gulf War's efects.
BTW, people are alreafy living in Hiroshima and and Chernobyl. You confuse radioactive materials with viruses and neurotoxins. Thing is dangerous but its effects are more subtle than some super lethal zone which you can't approach without dying.

Lastly, point your hair drier and laser pen at yourself, just for a minute. If you caugut cancer I am so sorry and I pay your treatment. If not then that's exactly what you can expect with pure nukes. Sure, unlucky dudes caught in the close proximity of the detination may suffer fromadiation poisoning but that's like saying frag grenades are contaminating because a stray sharpnel can wound people. Pure fusion nukes aren't exactly Disney Land and there coule complications wr didn't considered before but from what we know they are sure as hell more eco friendly than meteor impacts and kinetif bombardment.

As for launching kinetic rods via railgun mechanism. It may help but it defeats the whole point on them being cheap. The system would still cheaper per shot than a nuke but you're getting dimnishing returns. That abd you can only get so far by accelerating a multi-ton projectile. Try how crazy amount it needs by just inputing the KE formula of E= 0.5m*v^2
That and even if it's fast it ravels in a straight line for entire hours. More tnough time to predict its course and shoot it down.

I don't wish to turn this game into a number crunching science fair. I am merely giving you the correct answers.

@Willy Vereb

I wrote this on the mobile phone so excuse me for the mess of typos. Anyways, like I said don't take this to heart and I agree that while realism is good we shouldn't get overboard with it.
I just answered to your argument with my own. If anything seems offensive, none intended.

On The Brink of Instability (and we're off!)

@UnfortunatelySay that to the Dinosaurs.
Dust clouds high in the atmosphere can lead to environmrntal catastrophes including but not exclusive to mini iccice ages.
Also dust powder in your lungs is a very serious healh issue, just ask people who know about volcanic catastrophes.
Heavy metal particles are even worse and nah, they would contaminate the landscape for long and you won't be happy for it. Check reports on the Gulf War's efects.
BTW, people are alreafy living in Hiroshima and and Chernobyl. You confuse radioactive materials with viruses and neurotoxins. Thing is dangerous but its effects are more subtle than some super lethal zone which you can't approach without dying.

Lastly, point your hair drier and laser pen at yourself, just for a minute. If you caugut cancer I am so sorry and I pay your treatment. If not then that's exactly what you can expect with pure nukes. Sure, unlucky dudes caught in the close proximity of the detination may suffer fromadiation poisoning but that's like saying frag grenades are contaminating because a stray sharpnel can wound people. Pure fusion nukes aren't exactly Disney Land and there coule complications wr didn't considered before but from what we know they are sure as hell more eco friendly than meteor impacts and kinetif bombardment.

As for launching kinetic rods via railgun mechanism. It may help but it defeats the whole point on them being cheap. The system would still cheaper per shot than a nuke but you're getting dimnishing returns. That abd you can only get so far by accelerating a multi-ton projectile. Try how crazy amount it needs by just inputing the KE formula of E= 0.5m*v^2
That and even if it's fast it ravels in a straight line for entire hours. More tnough time to predict its course and shoot it down.

I don't wish to turn this game into a number crunching science fair. I am merely giving you the correct answers.

The Sun Will Never Set (A Statisticless NRP)(It had a good run)

@Voltus_VentusAny plans to how to call the reboot?
The Sun Will Never Set was okay but had nothing to do with the game.
If I may suggest one how about "Fires of the New Century"?

When Nations Collide - Yamatai (ClocktowerEchos) vs Yllendthyr (Willy Vereb)

@Willy Vereb
With current refining abilities its 1.5-2.0 depending on the shell/use.

Greandes and mines tend to be on the smaller side towards 1.5
Smaller bombs and most artillery shells at roughly 1.75
Large shells for big guns and ship cannons and big bombs are at 2.0

@ClocktowerEchos

I see. Well, that's only slightlty better than RDX in general which has the RE factor of
1.5 IIRC.
What is the reason brhind the varying rates?
Refining rate? Mixing it with cheaper explosives?

On The Brink of Instability (and we're off!)

Um, pure fusion nukes are far less polluting than kinetic bombardment.
Pure fusion doesn't spread radioactive material everywhere. There's just a radiation burst, shockwave and that's it.
Meanwhile your Rods of God would spread metric tons of vaporized heavy metal particles into the air which is a recognized health hazard. Maybe not as bad as old nukes but that's subjective here.
Having higher mass than the nuke also mean it'd be more expensive to ship up to space and it'd spew up orders of magnitudes greater amount of dust with all its negative effects.
Kunetic bombardment also has less AoE albeit much better penetration so they are better against underground shelters.

On the other hand the idea of releasing the rods from further away only makes them far easier to intercept because due to the weaker gravity it'd take exponentially more time to reach the target. Also since rods of god are unguided they require crazy precise positioning and even then they would be less accurate than guided weapons. Worse your location basically telegraphs them whwre are you intending to shoot these.
Kinetic bombardment are the poor man's nuke and you can be sure that they'd be handled by prepared militaries as if they were cheap chinese toys.
Kinetic bombardment would only work if you secured the space for it. Without space superiority they won't be any more than a distraction.

The Sun Will Never Set (A Statisticless NRP)(It had a good run)

Ello?? Anyone in there? CAuse I am so game for a reboot or something for this!

Also, I am cool with an earth map as long as we get to keep custom races and stuff. I mean I would prefer a fictional map, but earth is fine as well.

@Skepic

Earth is easier to relate to IMO.
Of course for the sake of freedom I think voltus would allow us to alter the landscape a bit within your border or add resources you need for the plot to be viable.
So just pick whichever place is the most sympathetic to you.

@Voltus_VentusCan you @ mention me when the interest check thread is made?
Thank you in advance!

When Nations Collide - Yamatai (ClocktowerEchos) vs Yllendthyr (Willy Vereb)

@Willy Vereb
Oh christ, that's mildly threatening. Mildly XD

The Sakurite is why I'm fairly chill about your air crafts against me since I'm sending a lot of HEI up and each has a pretty big boom. Big booms and lots of booms tend to make pretty fireworks :3

Anyways, I'll start drawing up some numbers and wonder how the hell am I supposed to detail stuff on the map since I'm actually lacking MS Paint or PS. I have an idea tho...

@ClocktowerEchos

Speaking of which how effective is Sakuradite compared to TNT?
Give me a sorts of power multiplier.
1.5
2.0
3.0
How effective?