Willy Vereb

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Sorry! Girlfrando was using computer today for search for jobs.
No guns.

@DeadBeatWalking

Does it mean we are back in the 12th century?
That would have some...very un-fun consequences.
Like the tiny island out far away from Essos never able to interact with any of the other players.
Or the absence of castles as we know them, knights in shining armor and crossbows being a rare and kinda dubiously effective weapon outside sieges.
Heck, you don't even have counterweight trebuchets (albeit nor you need them).

EDIT: For clarification, no guns because they make battles less fun. Guy with a gun versus armed knight, trained archer, outlandish barbarian, fancy duelist, it's pretty much always gonna be guy with a gun. Cannon versus champion fighter, stone wall, fast ship, it's pretty much always gonna be cannon. I feel like the addition of firearms trumps any specialized thing another country can have or do.

@DeadBeatWalking

How?
Battles have so many important elements you can't even generalize them by category.
Guy with a gun versus a swordsman on a narrow staircase. Swordsman cuts down the gunner before the guy even have time to lit the match on his gun.
It also worth mentioning that even with muskets and their extremely heavy bullets plate armored knight could be safe until they are about 30 meters from them. They feared heavy crossbows much more.
Guns are useful in the right conditions and doctrines with them.
Even then gunners marching up in a line and shoot style tactics were not used exactly because of them fearing heavy cavalry.
Guns are unfun if you give them abilities they don't have.

Also fancy duelist? I thought you explicitly prohibited people to write about "special superskilled swordsmen of cool" in their army descriptions.

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I feel it really does have a point because it spreads information how the whole "guns in medieval age" is less of a boogieman and more like a historical fact and people should really grown out from the preconception that guns suddenly made armor and castles useless when both actually was in the process of their greatest development yet. If people turn this into a superweapon then it's everyone's duty to crack down on them.
If we are at it, did you know that by the 16th century there are some amazing repeating guns, I am talking about revolver "musket" or actual repeater gun with separate ball and powder magazines that loaded both in precise order when the right levers were pulled on it. Yet you don't see these dominating wars, either.
One reason is because they were expensive and only a limited number of people could make them. So were wheelocks. Actually IIRC Switzerland made a few hundred repeater guns by the late times regardless.
So why there are no terrifying tales about super gunmen rapidly mowing down masses?
Maybe because war is more than just a bunch of videogame stats. Maybe because there's a good reason why crossbows were actually a superior weapon to bows even though the difference in fire rate. And lastly because there's always the stinking logistics.
If a nation has gun-heavy army make sure they have all the right reasons for that. And while guns have advantages they also have their nuances and drawbacks. You should learn to use that.
I don't give a damn if my enemy has awesome wheelock muskets loaded with solid gold bullets. There's still a myriad ways to beat them.
And one of those actually involves heavy cavalry, the thing some argue would the gun make obsolete.

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The only thing guns destroyed were castles and that's only for them to return with vengeance in the 16th century. Seriously, instead of eliminating sieges it's statistical fact that in areas where star forts and other advanced fortifications were made all warfare was nothing but a huge list of sieges.

EDIT: Dude, I have more posts than you and joined earlier than you. I almost exclusively only posted in the NRP section. Me not participating in enough RPs, really? You just had a few bad games and try to generalize it, that's all.

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I also talk about guns a bit because I probably end up making this world's equivalent to Black Army of Hungary. A mid to late 15th century army which had about 25% of their soldiers carrying guns.

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Personally I'm not too keen on the idea of guns being widespread.

@Darkspleen

Depends on how widespead, really.
I mean it's a fact that the "knight in shining armor" image and the growing armies of gunmen were actually developed in parallel in history. The idea that guns destroyed "pure medieval style combat" is a big hogwash and actually it wasn't till the 17th century in Europe when the heavy cavalry started to go out of favor.
The kind of gunman that could render armor almost irrelevant was the musketeer, the original one. They were large physically fit men carrying oversized firearms firing bullets with diameters you nowadays see for light cannons. They were paid double for their services.

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I could go with this, but IMHO, once firearms enter an rp, many 'fantasy' technologies are irrelevant. Aside from magic, guns cancel out swords and bows. Even in the early stages, hence why we use guns today instead of bows.

@Monkeypants

British disagree with you. They kept archers on ships up till the late 17th century or so?
Make no mistake guns were a phenomenon of the era which brought many changes over the time. They did have their quite significant advantages. But in the end both were weapons that could kill a man and what really led to the end of the longbow era that Britain ran out of the wood used for them and men training from birth to be longbowmen grew scarce.

[SCI-FI] The Stars Above

So any further comments on my NS?
I even quoted the latest version so you don't need to get back to the page where I made it.
@MissingAxisWould it be fine for me to post it in the Characters page?
I am otherwise ready to post. Maybe I need to pick a starting place but we can discuss that later.

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@Monkeypants Oh what the hell, you can have it. I'm pulling out.

@Golem

Being busy or something else?
If it's related to any disagreement with players I am sure we can work things out.

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Sazaghony --- WIP

Sazaghony

_{Sazaghony, also known as the Dragonlands, is a large empire located in Central Essos. It's known for its large plains, diverse cultures and that their rulers trace their lineage back to Sazagan, the mythological Dragon Ruler of Earth. The empire can be found in the middle of the continent, providing examples to the influence of both East and West.}

Geography

Map

Yes, the green blob at the center is Sazaghony.

From South to North the Empire of Sazaghony stretches over the center of Essos. From the East and South they're backed by mountains while at the West only rivers and lakes defy the borders of the empire. Depends on where you live you can enjoy various environments in Sazaghony ranging from mediterranean, deserts to moderate climates and even cold tundras. Most of the lands are in the fertile moderate to almost tropical climate zone which benefits them in agriculture. They have access to both the Southern and Northern seas.

History

TBA

Culture

TBA

Military

TBA

Economy

TBA

Relations

TBA

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That green sludge in the center of the continent.
Tentative claim for now.

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I am heavily contemplating to be Gowi and ethanjory's neighbor at the left and then wait and hope for a leftmost country with different culture occupy the neighborhood next to me.