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Almost done. Gonna come back and finish the Races and Population sections later.

Like the Great Han, Malagasy Enterprises has several different ethnicities under its umbrella. They aren't persecuted in the "kill 'em all" way, but they tend to migrate off of Madagascar and colonize new territories (or re-settle their old lands as they're terraformed). Malagasy will also have its fair share of mutants, of genetically-modified persons, and probably a couple more monstrous species that have been born as a result of the nuclear apocalypse.

I don't know what to put for population numbers, though.

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@ShorticusFor populations, I took the modern day population of my occupied lands and lopped off an arbitrary number. This is after an atomic apocalypse, world war, and climate shifts, so it would probably be a big one.

Also, since your corporation had its hands in genetic modification, maybe they had a role in Project Moreau which led to the vast majority of Oceons? Just a thought.
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@Shorticus Good job so far :) Even if it's nor finished, your free moving the sheet over to the characters section.
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@ShorticusFor populations, I took the modern day population of my occupied lands and lopped off an arbitrary number. This is after an atomic apocalypse, world war, and climate shifts, so it would probably be a big one.

Also, since your corporation had its hands in genetic modification, maybe they had a role in Project Moreau which led to the vast majority of Oceons? Just a thought.


Definitely sounds good to me! It had a different name back then, but it'd definitely be into doing unethical genetic research.

@Sigma I'm thinking of rolling with 153 million citizens. I took most of the coast along Africa's population, combined it with 10% of India's population, Sri Lanka, and a portion of Polynesia's population. Then I multiplied this by .3, reducing the number to 30% of the original amount, and then added 8 million or so to the number, resulting in 153 million. Does that seem fair?

Gonna add this to the nation section soon.
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Okay, sheet finished and posted. I can edit population numbers later if necessary.

Does anyone want to work out foreign relations with Malagasy Enterprises before I do any kind of IC posting? I'll quickly go and add a section on what sort of goods the corporate nation has to trade if you'd like. It's largely agricultural products, including luxuries like peppers, spices, coffee, vanilla, chocolate, etc.

EDIT: Gonna make a quick edit on the Ogres in my nation. Reducing their population significantly, basically. 20% of the mutated population would mean 9.18 million. Gonna make them 10% of the mutated population, reducing their numbers to half of that.
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Just updated my vehicle park a bit. Added a lot more armored vehicles.
As you know me this is hardly the full list but it might still be interesting.

ML-24 Makk SPG/Tank Destroyers and HK-27 Lehel MBTs are on sale for export. Both are equipped with 105mm guns.
If you have good relations with the League then perhaps you may even acquire HK-48 Zrínyi tank destroyers. Those are quite good for defense.
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@Shorticus The population is all good with me.

As for relations, I'd imagine the UPC bought all sorts of goods from M.E.

Pretty sure that has mostly ceased after the UPC fell, it's only shores are not exactly safe for merchant ships.

Edit: And excellent stuff Willy :)
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ML-24 Makk SPG/Tank Destroyers and HK-27 Lehel MBTs are on sale for export. Both are equipped with 105mm guns.
If you have good relations with the League then perhaps you may even acquire HK-48 Zrínyi tank destroyers. Those are quite good for defense.


I'm looking at your culture/demographics section again. The demographics of Hungary are pretty similar to Madagascar, and the treatment of non-humans is similar (tolerated but not exactly accepted)...

I can see Malagasy Enterprises trading foodstuffs and luxury agricultural products in return for military equipment, metals, and electrical equipment. I don't see these nations as necessarily the best of friends, but a mutually beneficial trade relationship with a foreign entity that isn't really in punching range would definitely be good to Malagasy Enterprises.

...Of course, the corporate government would probably want to secure deals with Hungary which prevent them from opening similar trade deals with the Great Han. I honestly think the Great Han is going to be a natural enemy of Malagasy Enterprises just due to conflicting interests and border friction.

Thoughts?

As for relations, I'd imagine the UPC bought all sorts of goods from M.E.

Pretty sure that has mostly ceased after the UPC fell, it's only shores are not exactly safe for merchant ships.


Probably has ceased, yeah, though I imagine that some supplies are sent in support of... Hm. Could you tell me a bit more about the Legion of the Exalted One and the Separatists and Militia Groups?
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@Shorticus The Legion are a Grogar Cult centered around the Worship of the AI controlling the massive facility from which they were born from. Unlike many grogar clans, the Legion remained true to the AI and do its bidding. Both plan to purge North America of those that would refuse to bow to the Mad AI.

As for the Separatists and Militia(may merge them into a single group), I haven't develop much of them yet, but one idea of them is they are a nationalist Faction who seek to create their own state.
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@Shorticus The Legion are a Grogar Cult centered around the Worship of the AI controlling the massive facility from which they were born from. Unlike many grogar clans, the Legion remained true to the AI and do its bidding. Both plan to purge North America of those that would refuse to bow to the Mad AI.

As for the Separatists and Militia(may merge them into a single group), I haven't develop much of them yet, but one idea of them is they are a nationalist Faction who seek to create their own state.


I'll say, then, that the rebels and separatists may be receiving some support in the form of food supplies and weapons from Corporate Madagascar, mostly because they're the only group Corporate Madagascar can reasonably support without having to march through Grogar infested territory.
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@Shorticus Excellent :) Looks like the Separatists have a supplier. A good way for Madagascar to have influence in North America, a Client State(or potential colonial territory ).
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Speaking of Grogar and civil war Sigma, we need to work out Cascadias role in all this. I imagine the rocky mountains shield them from the conflict far more effectively than the NAUs border region does so Cascadia might be less involved.

That said, those same mountains make Cascadia a haven for refugee's, I can easily see it being seen as a sort of hopeful dream safe from conflict by the populace of the plains.

Which ties into the plan I had, immigrants are non citizens in Cascadia unless they serve in the military, so there would be an incentive for massive recruitment were I to move on some area of the fractured coalition.

Hmm, we should hash this out in a pm.
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@Isotope I like the sound of it so far :)
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I'm looking at your culture/demographics section again. The demographics of Hungary are pretty similar to Madagascar, and the treatment of non-humans is similar (tolerated but not exactly accepted)...

I can see Malagasy Enterprises trading foodstuffs and luxury agricultural products in return for military equipment, metals, and electrical equipment. I don't see these nations as necessarily the best of friends, but a mutually beneficial trade relationship with a foreign entity that isn't really in punching range would definitely be good to Malagasy Enterprises.

...Of course, the corporate government would probably want to secure deals with Hungary which prevent them from opening similar trade deals with the Great Han. I honestly think the Great Han is going to be a natural enemy of Malagasy Enterprises just due to conflicting interests and border friction.

Thoughts?
Actually we pretty much tolerate mutants, it just happens that even if there are laws protecting them things are not so easy. Imagine blacks in the early 1990s, for example. Actually given the Holy League's deep Christian roots and conservatism it's kinda amazing how they managed to accept mutants.
On the other hand you'd likely won't make many friends with your openness to gene manipulation. That's a seriously big can of worms.

But yeah, trade relationship is entirely possible. I happen to have a bit of presence in Africa so perhaps that could be our point of contact.

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Actually we pretty much tolerate mutants, it just happens that even if there are laws protecting them things are not so easy. Imagine blacks in the early 1990s, for example. Actually given the Holy League's deep Christian roots and conservatism it's kinda amazing how they managed to accept mutants.
On the other hand you'd likely won't make many friends with your openness to gene manipulation. That's a seriously big can of worms.

But yeah, trade relationship is entirely possible. I happen to have a bit of presence in Africa so perhaps that could be our point of contact.


Yeah, Malagasy Enterprises is going to make a lot of enemies with their gene manipulation for sure. But then they're a huge agricultural supplier that is mostly concerned with the expansion of trade, and they're pretty far off... They're probably seen as a "tolerable evil" when it comes to getting their goods.

Yeah, so let's have a strong trade going on, but let's say that the BEST equipment Hungary isn't shipping to Malagasy Enterprises, at least not yet. Malagasy Enterprises isn't a friend; just a business partner.

@Shorticus Excellent :) Looks like the Separatists have a supplier. A good way for Madagascar to have influence in North America, a Client State(or potential colonial territory ).


At the least, they hope to get a new trade partner and an ally they can use to push their interests in North America.

@Isotope What sort of relationship do you see between Malagasy Enterprises and Cascadia, especially given that Malagasy Enterprises is supporting a group of Badlands rebels that ARE NOT pro-Cascadia?
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@Shorticus

I imagine Franco-Iberia having considerable influence, and close ties, with Malagasy Ent., in Madagascar especially, as it would make sense for our historically bound nations to each house our fair share of expatriates, especially considering what I suspect to be sizable Malagasy diaspora due to relative proximity combined with those aforementioned strong bonds, in addition to you being a major agricultural purveyor in these war-torn times and I possessing much of the Eastern hemisphere's mechanical and electrical machinery production.
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@ShorticusOur relationship is likley extremely rocky if not outright cold. Your gene manipulation would be seen as as a societal and religious affront, and you represent an uncertain quantity in Asia as compared to the more ideologically compatible Great Han. The rebels just add another point of conflict.
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I imagine Franco-Iberia having considerable influence, and close ties, with Malagasy Ent., in Madagascar especially, as it would make sense for our historically bound nations to each house our fair share of expatriates, especially considering what I suspect to be sizable Malagasy diaspora due to relative proximity combined with those aforementioned strong bonds, in addition to you being a major agricultural purveyor in these war-torn times and I possessing much of the Eastern hemisphere's mechanical and electrical machinery production.


I was thinking along similar lines. They have cultural ties for sure, and similar societies in... some ways, at least more ways than other nations.

I also figured that Franco-Iberia would potentially be one of those nations to hire Malagasy terraformers? They're trying to stop the desertification of the Sahara, so I imagine that terraforming tech is exactly what they'd want at their disposal.

Either way, there's definitely a trade relationship. I don't know if there'd be an outright alliance since Franco-Iberia could lose some face politically if they were aligned with a state that favors gene modification of its soldiery and workforce. They could, perhaps, have a defensive pact? But trade would probably be thriving between these two nations.

@ShorticusOur relationship is likley extremely rocky if not outright cold. Your gene manipulation would be seen as as a societal and religious affront, and you represent an uncertain quantity in Asia as compared to the more ideologically compatible Great Han. The rebels just add another point of conflict.


Sounds perfect! Let's roll with this.
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Could be worse.
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@Shorticus

yeah, i've yet to fully flesh out their stance on modifications of that sort anyways.

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