[OOC] Mutually Assured Destruction

[null123]

Well going to go ahead and request a roll, this looks interesting.

[Meth Quokka]

Wait, do we just request rolls? I do not see a app format.

@duck55223

You request a roll and then use the link in the character tab to build your nation sheet.

[null123]

<Snipped quote by duck55223> You request a roll and then use the link in the character tab to build your nation sheet.

@Kangaroo

Ah thanks, going to wait till I see my rolls before I decide what I want to do in terms of my nation.

[HeySeuss]

Well going to go ahead and request a roll, this looks interesting.

@duck55223

Population Density (Pop: 19,000,000) -Adequately Populated; Some manpower for economic and military purposes, and social infrastructure is only under some pressure. Educational costs and civic projects are affordable. Industrialization -Widespread: Strong industrialization across the nation. Domestic Technology -Modernizing: The industrial infrastructure is in the process of improvement, and this is a teething process. But the economy is seeing increased activity because of this investment. New technologies are becoming domestically available. However, there is a degree of dependence on imports, including in terms of the expertise to modernize the economy. Educational Institutions -Comprehensive Public Primary and Secondary Schools, Mixed Private/Public Universities Domestic Political Stability -Civil Discourse Common Mineral Deposits -Large deposits of iron, chromium, copper and the like. Valuable Mineral Deposits -Moderate deposits of rare earth metals, and platinum. Petroleum Wells -No Significant Petroleum/Natural Gas Wells. Fissible Material Deposits -None Military Recruitment -All Volunteer Force Military Reliability -Tied to Religious Group Military Size -Large, relative to population: requires considerable upkeep, harder to equip/supply quickly. Military Technology -Limited Modernization Military Training and Morale -Decently Trained; High Morale Military Leadership -Competent; Rose to their positions through a Military Academy Military Popularity -Unpopular Secret Services -Incompetent Secret Service; Full of double agents of other nations

[Meth Quokka]

<Snipped quote by Kangaroo> Ah thanks, going to wait till I see my rolls before I decide what I want to do in terms of my nation.

@duck55223

No worries mate, that's the way it's done :)

[null123]

Edit:Actually I need to think about those stats for a minute.

[Pepperm1nts]

Something like an Eastern European or Asian country it is for me, then. Thanks for the reroll. If there is a player playing as something like post-Cold War post-WWII Russia (I thought I read something like it), I wouldn't mind working something out so our histories are somewhat linked somehow.

[null123]

Going to keep my rolls, Theocracy time baby!

[So Boerd]

What years correspond to which military tech levels?

[Sini]

Something like an Eastern European or Asian country it is for me, then. Thanks for the reroll. If there is a player playing as something like post-Cold War Russia (I thought I read something like it), I wouldn't mind working something out so our histories are somewhat linked somehow.

@Pepperm1nts

My nation is built around the premise that the commie revolution failed and instead the old monarchy stayed in place. So I am not sure if that fits your 'post-Cold War Russia', also seeing as this is the start of our story's Cold War.

[Pepperm1nts]

Oh, herp. I meant post-WWII. And I was referring to yours being post-WWII, not mine.

[Sini]

Oh, herp. I meant post-WWII. And I was referring to yours being post-WWII, not mine.

@Pepperm1nts

My nation or Herp's? All our nations would be post-WWII, with post-WWII tech and such. Time is an absolute concept. Your country might not have participated but the war still happened? I'm not sure what you're all getting at :p. But... yes? If you want to collaborate on things.

[Pepperm1nts]

I understand the RP is post-WWII (or its version of it). This is clear. What I meant was that I was willing to work out the history of my nation around yours, because yours is presumably our version of post-WWII Russia (or the closest thing to it). So if I decided to be our Poland, we could work out how I became independent, ect. EDIT: Anyway, I'll think of something later.

[Sini]

I understand the RP is post-WWII (or its version of it). This is clear. What I meant was that I was willing to work out the history of my nation around yours, because yours is presumably our version of post-WWII Russia (or the closest thing to it). So if I decided to be our Poland, we could work out how I became independent, ect. EDIT: Anyway, I'll think of something later.

@Pepperm1nts

Cool, let me know. There's a period of turmoil mentioned in my nation sheet. You could've shaken your leash then.

[HeySeuss]

What years correspond to which military tech levels?

@So Boerd

(I will be holding people accountable to this -- so hopefully, people just play it straight. Suffice it to say, I am familiar with people trying to stretch the boundaries of given definitions and categories.) Obsolete - Pre WWII technology - aircraft non-existent or, at best, piston-engined but not particularly effective in the current environment; the typical aircraft might well be the likes of an early Messerschmidt 109 and radar is not a thing. Infantry tech is the bolt action rifle. Formations are not very nimble. Definitely no aircraft carriers; nothing that'd be remotely effective in modern combat anyway and ships like destroyers lack sufficient anti-submarine capability as well as anti-aircraft capability, as they are older classes in need of refit. Mechanization is probably limited to unarmored supply and transport vehicles, armored cars, halftracks and light tanks. Examples:

- M3 Stuart Tanks - Short Magazine, Lee Enfield - Lewis machinegun - Browning M1917 Machinegun - Messerschmidt 109 - Junkers 89 "Stuka" - Benson-Class Destroyer

Limited Modernization - WWII tech. No jet aircraft, radar is a thing, but it's obviously not mounted on aircraft for the most part and coordination of air support for ground forces is in its infancy. Medium tanks like the Sherman and T-34 are seeing their use here, there's a proliferation of automatic weapons and an attempt to make infantry able to handle anti-tank work if they must -- this is also when industrial mass production comes into play. Naval equipment undergoes a change -- it is unlikely a smaller country can afford aircraft carriers, but torpedo boats, frigates and more advanced destroyers designed to hunt submarines are available...as are a more advanced class of submarine. Submarines also add a new dimension to warfare for those countries able to acquire some. Examples:

- Douglas A-1 Skyraider - B-29 Superfortress - Browning M1919A4 machinegun - M4 Sherman (late model) - M3 Halftrack - M1 Carbine - M18 Hellcat Tank Destroyer - Fletcher-Class Destroyer - Gato-class submarine

Rapid Modernization - is the category that straddles Limited Modernization and Leading Edge; most of the forces employ the above examples of weapons systems, but some elite formations have the best gear. Maybe it's just being brought online or maybe it's been bought in a deal or supplied by an allied nation, but there are limited numbers of it. On the other hand, those elite formations tend to be a head of state's fire brigade, and perhaps their insurance policy in domestic political problems or in disputes with belligerent neighbors. Examples:

See above and below.

Leading Edge - This is the newest equipment of the era, as technology is further integrated into the field. Radar, fire control, communication, mobility all become of paramount concern as science finds new ways to deliver death and destruction to enemies while reducing ones own casualties. Sometimes, they are successful. A leading edge tech military has access to all this weaponry, but is also probably undergoing doctrinal change, assuming the generals are willing to play along, in order to most effectively use this weaponry. After all, in WWII, France had more tanks, but the Germans organized it so that the infantry could keep up with the tanks, rather than that the tanks be chained to the infantry. Employment, therefore, is as vital as deployment. Edit: Missiles are getting tried out here too. They're going to be the big thing. Examples:

- AK-47 (the early versions; milled receivers and so forth. More expensive to produce.) - B-52 Stratofortress (early) - Centurion Main Battle Tank - M59 APC - H-34 Choctaw - F-86 Sabre - Des Moines-class cruiser

[So Boerd]

Thanks. Rapid Modernization suits me perfectly.

[So Boerd]

The dynamic between Sini, Kangaroo and myself will be interesting. The Kingdom of Resia will have to choose to what extent it will side with each, and under what circumstances will it switch support?

[HeySeuss]

I consider the tech levels to be a good starting point; also, the way the roll system works, nations can't really isolate very easily or well, so engagement just to get the necessary tech knowledge and various imports to achieve a policy agenda is a necessity. So military upgrades, not to mention research and development (education levels factor into this) will become a thing.

[The Captain]

Am I obligated to take the reroll should I request one?

[HeySeuss]

Am I obligated to take the reroll should I request one?

@The Captain

That would be the deal. I gotta work when I reroll, after all.