If you say so I think you're grossly overlooking Jeanne as fighter on her own merit personally.
If you say so I think you're grossly overlooking Jeanne as fighter on her own merit personally.
Yeah? Isn't that a given for pretty much any servant not with some stupidly powerful ridiculous ability in the fate's verse? I don't see what you're trying to argue here I know Jeanne isn't going to be winning entire battles against more than two servants on her own. All I'm saying is your focusing on the barrier phantasm too much.
@1Charak2I'm assuming it's strong enough too take at least one or two powerful noble phantasms at this state. She isn't ruler but the phantasm itself hasn't changed.
Probably. Not that the thing will see that much use and I'm not going to keep track every small hit the thing takes like when it gets banged with a sword. I'm not sure why this is a pressing matter though Jeanne's on our side.

Okay, I'll admit it. Archer is my favorite class.Class Name: Archer
Nicknames: The One-Eyed Azure Dragon of the North
Alignment: Lawful Neutral
Servant of:
Catalyst for Summon: An old eye patch made out of the tsuba (hilt) of a katana
Weapon(s): Two Katanas, dual-wielded. Dragon's Fury (See first Noble Phantasm)
Wish: "To Conquer Japan."
Abilities
Charisma: C
The natural talent to command an army. This rank is suitable for the general of a country's armed forces.
Eye of the Mind (True): B
A heightened capacity for observation, refined through experience. Capable of calm analysis of battle conditions even when in danger and deduce an appropriate course of action after considering all possibilities to escape from a predicament. So long there is even a 1% chance of a comeback, this ability greatly improves the chances of winning.
Military Tactics: C+
Tactical knowledge used not for one-on-one combat situations, but for battles where many are mobilized. Bonus modifiers are provided during use of one's own Anti-Army Noble Phantasm or when dealing against an enemy Anti-Army Noble Phantasm.
Protection of the Faith: B
A Skill possessed only by those who have sacrificed themselves for a religious view. Despite being a form of divine protection, it is not a blessing from a higher existence. It is only the absoluteness of one's body and soul, which is born from faith. But if it is too high, it causes abnormalities in the personality.
Class Skills
Independant Action: A
It is possible to take action even without a Master. However, to use Noble Phantasms of great magical energy consumption, backup from the Master is necessary. At Rank A, it is possible for a Servant to stay in the world for about a week without a Master.
Magic Resistance: C
Cancel spells with a chant below two verses. Cannot defend against Magecraft on the level of High-Thaumaturgy and Greater Rituals.
Base Parameters
Strength: B
Endurance: B
Agility: B
Magical Power: C
Good Luck: B
Noble Phantasm: A
Noble PhantasmsName: Dragon's Fury - Siege of Osaka
"Do not stand in the way of the Dragon, imbecile! Out of pity, I will end this quickly for you!"
Rank: B+
Type: Anti-Unit
Range: 5 - 100
Targets: 1
Description: Archer was most proficient in swordsmanship superior to the likes of Oda Nobunaga, however like the Demon King he preferred the innovative works of firearms.He was unrelenting in his assaults, while leading his troops in the siege of Osaka Castle, Archer decided that his front-line ashigaru peasant warriors weren’t fighting as hard as they could. So he ordered his riflemen to move up and fire two volleys regardless of the front position to maintain the assault.
This feat manifests as ten powerful muskets, capable of damaging servants. They materialise around him and continually rotate, giving off a constant stream of bullets, with each musket taking three seconds to reload. Archer is capable of moving them essentially anywhere in the nearby vicinity to fire from anywhere, although he is limited to only firing in the same general direction, or at the same target. He is capable of using it from either a standing, long range position or while rapidly moving around and engaging in melee combat with his twin katana.Name: Hide of the Dragon - Armor of Azure
"It is I, Masamune Date, the Azure Dragon of the North! Prepare to face the true might of the Dragon!"
Rank: A (+)
Type: Anti-Unit (Self)
Range: -
Targets: -
The light blue armour of Archer is one of the most recognizable forms during the Sengoku Period and gave him one of his nicknames: "The Azure Dragon". He normally goes into battle without it as it would reveal his identity due to its colour and trademark crescent-moon helmet and prefers to utilise its power to quickly overwhelm the enemy and destroy them in a quick burst. This is also due to the faxt that the armor takes a tremendous amount of prana to maintain extensively.
While the armour reduces the damage of any attack of B rank or below to at least 70%, its true power is to act as a powerful 'Dragon Reactor,' temporarily making him akin to his nickname, a member of Dragonkind. His Endurance, Mana and Magic Resistance is boosted to 'A' rank while additionally granting him the equivalent of Prana Burst (Lightning) (B) However this armour has a vulnerability to Dragon Slaying weapons.
The + modifier is added when Archer is summoned in Japan. This causes Date's right eye socket to glow blue, and gives him the equivilent of Breath of the Dragon (Lightning) (C) when this Noble Phantasm is activated.
Appearance:
Archer stands at 5'9 and weighs enough pounds that a Servant of his fitness and build should be.Masamune Date
(A vulgar bio, but it lists most of his accomplishments well)
Other: Credit
He's an Archer that can handle himself in a melee. If his Phantasm needs nerfing, ler me know. As for his stats, he is one of the Knight classes, and he was also a formidable warrior in his time. He also survived a time of war through his whole life and died of natural causes in the beginning of a time of peace in Japan, which is why his luck is above average. If any nerfs are needed, let me know.
@1Charak2
That does make sense, yeah, although I did have the idea to reword it within the lines of making him considered a 'Dragon' while this Noble Phantasm is activated. This is due to his legend as being called a Dragon, both by others and himself. The armor is not only the famous armor that he was known to wear, but also represents the crystalization of his legend as the Azure Dragon of the North.
I had an idea of actually giving him a skill to represent this. This idea stems from how Oda Nobunaga has the Demon King skill, which is technically a variation of the Innocent Monster Skill, except she also called herself a demon as well. Of course, in Masamune's case, it would make him take on more of the characteristics as a member of Dragonkind. In the end, I scrapped the idea of giving him a similar skill due to balancing reasons, seeing as Oda ended up being pretty OP,
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I guess, but he can still function with his other noble phantasm active while under the effects of this one. So it would likely just be a balancing thing. Considering.
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Yeah, I added the changes earlier. Seeing as he is a Knight class, and he already is a great warrior even without taking to account he is associated with "being" a dragon, he's already strong in terms of power.
@1Charak2
The way I see it is that while he is technically considered a member of Dragonkind while his Phantasm is activated, he doesn't have the pure strength of an actual dragon. His legend does not involve him slaying any dragons or other phantasmal beasts, and while donning his armor, he doesn't have the pure strength that an actual dragon would have. His Breath of thr Dragon, for example, isn't as strong as an actual dragon's, and he is incapable of flight, or a method of staying mid-air for a prolonged period of time.
In essence, he doesn't become the dragon when he dons his armor, but he obtains the aspect of the dragon, in a sense.
@1Charak2
I'll add more clarification to his Noble Phantasm that he isn't considered a true Dragon, or even a mixed blood. His legend just alludes to his might on the battlefield as something akin to a Dragon.
As for the bonus effect, it was added because in Japan, his homeland, they make forms of media where he basically fights holding six katanas, to add to his legend as a "Dragon". Since holding swords like that breaches Capcom's trademarks is more an idea of the modern age, and honestly too nonsensible, I figured a boost to his legend as being akin to a Dragon would be appropriate.
@1Charak2
Seeing how he is an Archer made in the mold to be a bit more of a cunning fighter than a direct one, with having a huge steroid he'd rather not pop out due to it also being a huge nametag, he'd definitely lose if said vacuum means he won't be able to manuever well, considering his Eye of the Mind skill is out of the question.
Also too close for Unlimited Musket Works to take reasonable effect.
These factors are all not including Hide of the Dragon, by the way.