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How would you feel about a Machbet (Isaeli M163 VADS with secondary armament of 4 Stingers) but instead of that a secondary Spike ATGM launcher?

slightly aroused I think that would be a perfect fit. Anything with a rotary cannon is always fun
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How would you feel about a Machbet (Isaeli M163 VADS with secondary armament of 4 Stingers) but instead of that a secondary Spike ATGM launcher?


I was tempted by something similar. The company working on the HSTVL had this concept art for a version carrying missiles and rockets


Decided I'd just stick with the configuration they actually tested/went with lol
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Tank done, working on crew





Should be done, barring minor changes I might make/grammar edits
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So what environments will we be primarily operating in
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So what environments will we be primarily operating in


Well, we have a whole world to play with! So I intend to keep things varied as we move from adventure to adventure. Also that way, everyone gets a chance to excel at something or do something different as we move along. But you'll be starting off in Central Asia; mountainous with a lot of valleys and flood plains.
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Well, we have a whole world to play with! So I intend to keep things varied as we move from adventure to adventure. Also that way, everyone gets a chance to excel at something or do something different as we move along. But you'll be starting off in Central Asia; mountainous with a lot of valleys and flood plains.


Sounds good. :)
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Sounds good. :)


What do you mean “sounds good”? You ever seen a tank disappear in a rice paddy?
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What do you mean “sounds good”? You ever seen a tank disappear in a rice paddy?


Then your updgraded to the submarine service lol.
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What do you mean “sounds good”? You ever seen a tank disappear in a rice paddy?


That's SE Asia, thankfully.

No, this means we're going to Stan-land.

*Norkie T-62MV goes into a cold sweat*
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That's SE Asia, thankfully.

No, this means we're going to Stan-land.

*Norkie T-62MV goes into a cold sweat*


Least your missing the auto loader.
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Least your missing the auto loader.


T-62 never had it, and was the primary soviet tank in the Afghan war. Only T-55s and T-62s were sent to the sandbox.

So yes, the crews' worry is justified.

Further concern is the 5TDF engine derrived from the T-64 it'll be using
A few T-64 tanks were tested in Afghanistan during January 1980, but were quickly withdrawn without seeing combat because their engines did not perform well in the high altitude necessary for Afghan operations
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@Rhona W Probably a coincidence, but... Canada be doing a war-movie featuring a ex-Belgian Leopard 1A5 acting as a ex-Belgian Leopard 1A5.
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@Rhona W Probably a coincidence, but... Canada be doing a war-movie featuring a ex-Belgian Leopard 1A5 acting as a ex-Belgian Leopard 1A5.


Definitely a coincidence, but still interesting!
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Also, the barrel-life on the T-62AG is... not great... so it could probably swap guns between missions.

In this case a crude reversion to 115mm to better use local ammunition supplies. This however will mean it'll only be able to carry 35 115mm tank-rounds instead of the factory-default of 40, or the modified load of 35+5 120mm tank rounds. The 115mm would also be useful for low-threat environments and would have a 'cheap' 4-piece platics/fiberglass thermal-sleeve from the 1983 pattern of upgrades.

firing in the rain [without a thermal sleeve] has resulted in errors of up to 7 mils from barrel distortion, and by contrast, the maximum barrel distortion from solar heating occurs at 10 a.m in the morning and 4 p.m in the afternoon and the errors from heating and other external factors cumulatively induce an error of up to 1 mil. The installation of a thermal sleeve over the gun barrel will reduce the error when firing in the rain down to only 0.25 mils.


-tempted also to run methanol/gasoline in the external fuel-tanks and diesel or biodiesel in the internal fuel. As the post-fossil-fuel energy-system seems to favor methanol/ethanol. And the MM-1 mobile nuclear refinery was basically pulling Carbon-Monoxide from the atmosphere, then adding water and electricity/heat to get methanol to run tanks and jeeps and jets and stuff.
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Also, the barrel-life on the T-62AG is... not great... so it could probably swap guns between missions.

In this case a crude reversion to 115mm to better use local ammunition supplies. This however will mean it'll only be able to carry 35 115mm tank-rounds instead of the factory-default of 40, or the modified load of 35+5 120mm tank rounds. The 115mm would also be useful for low-threat environments and would have a 'cheap' 4-piece platics/fiberglass thermal-sleeve from the 1983 pattern of upgrades.

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-tempted also to run methanol/gasoline in the external fuel-tanks and diesel or biodiesel in the internal fuel. As the post-fossil-fuel energy-system seems to favor methanol/ethanol. And the MM-1 mobile nuclear refinery was basically pulling Carbon-Monoxide from the atmosphere, then adding water and electricity/heat to get methanol to run tanks and jeeps and jets and stuff.
--Things get really fun when you syngas the syngas into a 1:1 biodiesel substitute


Talk about tank nerdery.

Mine, well. It has standard 52 calibre longer barrel for better range. But it does mean the almost 8m long and not fun in urban traveling.

But theit is many flavours of 155mm to choose from dep3nding on the mission.
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Meanwhile the 115mm U-5TS is an L/52 (6 meter) barrel and the 120mm KBM-2 is a non-standard L/50 of also roughly 6 meters length.

"Standard" 120s tended to be L/44 (5.3m) and L/55 (6.6m), and the M68 being used by the M60A3 is L/52 (5.3m).
-So far nobody has decided to use the french L/52 120mm, yet.

Just in case anyone was having difficulty visualizing the tree-trunks of angry boom-booms.

-Anyways, I'm not as bad as Lauralix, who apparently recently took a DTC-10-125 tank round home with him for further studies.

According to the Rheinmetall CEO Armin Papperger the barrels of the PzH 2000 had an expected lifetime of around 4,500 shots, but to the surprise of the manufacturer they have achieved up to 20,000

The 40 km standard-range is also pretty promising (a 6 km boost if using a special propelling charge). And can do 60-90 km with special ammunition.

But yeah, the barrel life on my tank... not great
The KBA-3 gun - which corresponds to the 2A46M-1 - lacked a chrome lining and as such, had a barrel life of just 200 rounds when firing standard APFSDS ammunition (3BM42). The barrel life of the 2A46M is greatly inferior to that of the M256 and Rh120, as the former has a useful life of 600 M829A1 rounds and the latter has a useful life of 700 DM13 rounds, or 400-600 DM33 rounds. It is advertised that with a chrome lining, the barrel lifespan of the 2A46M is 1,200 EFC and the number of standard APFSDS ammunition (3BM42) that could be fired is 450 rounds.


Based on the limited information available, the U-5TS appears to have had an acceptable level of durability. It has an average barrel life of 450 shots or 400-450 shots, depending on the source


Basically ~100 rds of APFSDS for the 115mm.
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I hope Rhona's not expecting that level of detail from me lmfao
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It's called "being autistic" and it's why we're all here.
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I hope Rhona's not expecting that level of detail from me lmfao


I'm not expecting that level of detail from myself
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Meanwhile the 115mm U-5TS is an L/52 (6 meter) barrel and the 120mm KBM-2 is a non-standard L/50 of also roughly 6 meters length.

"Standard" 120s tended to be L/44 (5.3m) and L/55 (6.6m), and the M68 being used by the M60A3 is L/52 (5.3m).
-So far nobody has decided to use the french L/52 120mm, yet.

Just in case anyone was having difficulty visualizing the tree-trunks of angry boom-booms.

-Anyways, I'm not as bad as Lauralix, who apparently recently took a DTC-10-125 tank round home with him for further studies.

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The 40 km standard-range is also pretty promising (a 6 km boost if using a special propelling charge). And can do 60-90 km with special ammunition.

But yeah, the barrel life on my tank... not great
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Basically ~100 rds of APFSDS for the 115mm.


O was topping the range out w little, I'm not sure if the really advanced Vulcano ammunition would fit RP dates. Or I could be parked shelling stuff for you 70km away in a safe town with cocktails and a hotel suite lol..

But I might bring some fancy stuff like anti armour ammunition, laser ammo and bomb let/ see if theit is a equivalent 155mm of the tungsten shotgun.
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