[OOC] To Lund ap Lunds [ Early Middle Ages NRP ]

[KabenSaal]

Really wanted to see Cale get his ass well and truely kicked but I can see where you are coming from as well. Shut down a few RPs in my time, from losing sight of the original goal, to it becoming far to convoluted to continue.

[King Solterra]

1. Solterra does not equal Cale. 2. Lady Olga was plotting against Cole before the battle started. 3. There was a plan to free the elite soldiers held in captivity so they could take control of the gatehouse while a large army from Lady Olga and the entire Merc group of Lundland Deserters would storm the castles with the gates raised. Also, a Hashanin was hired along the other spies within Cole's castle to assasinate his son, that way there was a failsafe if the gate holding didn't work out. 4. Cole was going to be attacked on four or five different fronts causing his armies to be split up too harshly to make a suitable defense. There was 30,000 to 40,000 soldiers in total, along with strategy, all the morale, and numbers in siege weapons. 5. The plan was not to take control of any fiefs, only destroy the defenses as quick as possible and move on. Lady Olga would have been given the spoils. 6. There was a plan to get into the Keep/Mansion of Lord Cole within a day, perhaps even less as long as everything had went according to plan. 7. Solterra was not out to control, he was going to save his sister and leave Lundlands back to the Ordained Kingdom, which where he would have become a general in their army and his sister would later become a mercenary leader. 8. Flooby himself said the entire battle strategy I had created to take down Lord Cole was only second to another, the other being in the beta before this.

There is one thing that is the same between I and Solterra, it's that we make actions, not threats. Cole had no chance, and the mercenary group within would have lost everything for fighting without cause.

But no worries, in Lundland 3, there will be a new, much greater threat. No more neutral good or fighting for what is morally right. Lundland 3 will not have mercy, and no personal ties.

[FortunesFaded]

Cale Tucker said 1. Solterra does not equal Cale.

On this we agree. OOC and IC should always be kept entirely separate.

Cale Tucker said 2. Lady Olga was plotting against Cole before the battle started.

Now, are you sure about that? I mean, I could be wrong; the only person who knows what that character's true intentions were is Sadko. However, I suppose there is no use in holding back any information now: it was always my intention to attack Solterra - ever since he insulted Olga at the summit. That wasn't the reason, mainly. A lot of it was simply to procure land for the western coalition - Attolia, Pelataria and House Bloodsun. The army was coming down to flank Solterra, Cale, not aid him. But then again, Sadko's true intentions remain unknown.

[The Nexerus]

Speaking of cardinal directions and coalitions: Jorvik, Almare, Kaldur and Aaldorenfeald had all convened to secretly ally together and work towards disestablishing Lundland entirely—making every one of its kingdoms sovereign.

[King Solterra]

We were planning a wedding scene OOC. Fief 196 was to be sieged but Lady Olga made a plan to appear friendly, get inside, and then sack the place when the guards let their guard down. Also one of the Vassals capitals were to be sieged and cut them off from contact. Another thing to note, Olga hired Mercenaries (forget what ones) to stop any messages being sent out from Pelataria and shoot down messenger pidgeons

[Sadko]

..I essentially took Bolton as my main inspiration for Bloodsun. They are not to be trusted.

[King Solterra]

Yeah, but trusted by who? And do you lie OOCly like your character would apparently lie in IC? Or are you just not trustworthy to anyone? Because a line has to be drawn at some point as apparently Olga's people can trust Olga. Solterra didn't give a damn if Olga wanted his land he was going to give it without a fight and give her even more. He just wanted his sister and he was done with Lundlands

[Sadko]

well, of course her fucking people could trust her, man. She strives to protect them, give them advantages, so they don't starve, don't die. But also she seeks to advance her family's interests, not anybody else's. She joined Solterra because, while hated by the Church, Cole kind of did an international dickmove and she wouldn't want to be flipping a coin when Cole's and her armies are equal against Solterra. And she could always join Solterra, because she maintained good graces with him over messages. She wanted to only move the balance so that she and Solterra are winning, and that she gets all spoils possible, because the Behringer fellow promised her. I don't lie OOCly like my character would apparently lie in IC. I withhold the truth so as no possible meta happens.

[FortunesFaded]

I respect that. You played the game intelligently, subtly, and didn't brag every time you did a little thing right ;) All this game has ever been about was power, not any false causes we - or our characters - make up in our minds. The entire rationale for kidnapping Alexis was to stop the chain of command: she was a leader (perhaps not in politics, but in combat, surely), and in the event of Solterra's death she would be the one to rise up and rally the troops. Couldn't let that happen: I wanted it to end as bloodless as possible. Not because I hoped for Cole to become revered as some sort of prophet or messiah. Occupied fiefs are much more hostile when you've slaughtered half their population in the war.

That was it. Cole's entire rationale for.. Well.. Pretty much everything he did since the start of this game (and even the last game). It's been fun, guys!

[Sadko]

<3 You played the game well, too. Everybody did.

[So Boerd]

Sadko said
well, of course her fucking people could trust her, man. She strives to protect them, give them advantages, so they don't starve, don't die. But also she seeks to advance her family's interests, not anybody else's. She joined Solterra because, while hated by the Church, Cole kind of did an international dickmove and she wouldn't want to be flipping a coin when Cole's and her armies are equal against Solterra. And she could always join Solterra, because she maintained good graces with him over messages. She wanted to only move the balance so that she and Solterra are winning, and that she gets all spoils possible, because the Behringer fellow promised her. I don't lie OOCly like my character would apparently lie in IC. I withhold the truth so as no possible meta happens.

Had you actually done so, Jorvik was going to rain hell on you. Juliana Cole was marrying Raudebjorn.

[Sadko]

whatever you say, jarl walder frey.

[So Boerd]

Perks of the only blue-water navy in Lundland.

[King Solterra]

Artillery can reach artillery, and Solterra had the right kind to demolish said navy if they attacked Olga. Not much a pile of floating debris can do. While you had the best navy, can't do much to an army of ballista. They can use castles as cover and rain fire into ships, so if the holes don't sink them, the fire will. Perks of knowing better.

[So Boerd]

Cale Tucker said
Artillery can reach artillery, and Solterra had the right kind to demolish said navy if they attacked Olga. Not much a pile of floating debris can do. While you had the best navy, can't do much to an army of ballista. They can use castles as cover and rain fire into ships, so if the holes don't sink them, the fire will. Perks of knowing better.

Fortunately, I have an army equal or better to Sadko's that can appear and disappear in a few hour's notice and can't be caught by either of your armies before I torch a manor, take the food, and be on my merry way.

[Heyitsjiwon]

Okay, so story time!

I played Lothar Wolff as if he were a near zealous follower of the Church. So, Cale. I'm sorry, but I did send our conversation to someone. Not to Rone however (he was never my pick, but I didn't actively take him down cause I felt that someone else was going to do so anyways.). In fact, I was surprised that things turned out the way it did with that letter. I pictured a slap on the wrist, worst case scenario. But, my objective as Lothar was to scare you away from that council of religions by having the church keep an eye on you.

But, to be honest, Sadko, you kind of started to talk less in the Coalition's PM, so I started to become suspicious. So, I had a contingency plan just in case. I split my army into 3, which may have not been the best idea in the world if you guys did have the 50,000 troops that were mentioned. However, my plan was to deal with House Fisher's invasion fleet (I had a lot of ships activated that outnumbered the ships by 2+/1. Then I would have about 10,000 troops I kept in Attolia as reserve (with enough gold to raise another 40,000 for about 2-3 seasons, which was enough for next year to come around as well. So, I think I would have had enough to have a 50,000 strong army for a year.)

Now, if someone were to have assassinated Lothar/ killed him someway. My heir would have been... well. He was supposed to be a nice, young lad who went to church every Sunday. However, he would have been a puppet figure with a certain old adviser/jester being the one making the real decisions. Not for his own profit, but for his vision of a better Attolia, and oh boy... I was planning on making him possibly one of the most ruthless people. As in the kind who wouldn't bat an eye if he committed war crimes as long as they helped him accomplish his goals. Of course, he wouldn't be very religious either.

That all said. I wonder where Rone went off to.

[King Solterra]

You would have had 50,000 rabble. They would kill possibly about 10k of my troops, but probably less if I had the Mishfardens do a rear surprise attack. Also, I didn't expect for them to win a fight. If you had agreed, Wolf would have just been taken into questioning and not threatened. If he was found guilty and he plead guilty Solterra would probably have just charged him for like 10k bullis. If Wolff rejected, as expected, doesn't matter. They served as a direct threat to Wolff and would make a last ditch effort to kill as many of his people and property as possible. Their job was successful.

Also, So Boerd, that's okay. Solterra would have eventually just threw fire at your villages and sent the Mishfardens in to rape and pillage, killing morale

[So Boerd]

If Solterra or his supposed allies could GET to Jorvik. Blue-water navy and all.

[Heyitsjiwon]

If the Misfardens actually came, then I think that it would take a bit of time for them to actually reach my army considering that they have to cross Lundlands. Not too sure if many people would have been fond of that. but seriously though. Anyone know what happened to Rone?

[Heyitsjiwon]

If the Misfardens actually came, then I think that it would take a bit of time for them to actually reach my army considering that they have to cross Lundlands. Not too sure if many people would have been fond of that. but seriously though. Anyone know what happened to Rone?