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When it comes to Fate RPs trying to pick a the actual servant is the most difficult portion. Trying to portray a historical figure accurately won't be easy. Also due to Fate/Grand Order are those servants mostly prohibited already? Just a question since there are so many I might end up accidentally using one of them anyway.
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Well, I chose something simpler but reasonably ridiculous by going for Alice Kyteler. Why not look at some old European folklore or Hawaiian mythos? Things people don't generally see.
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Well, I chose something simpler but reasonably ridiculous by going for Alice Kyteler. Why not look at some old European folklore or Hawaiian mythos? Things people don't generally see.


Finding a historical figure isn't really difficult. Actually roleplaying them in any accurate way is the problem. I was thinking of doing Hannibal anyway.
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For those who don't know what servant to pick ,and don't mind spoilers, this link is quite helpfull:
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As for me.. was thinking about going for Vlad the Impaler, not sure yet.
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Noble Phantasm: Gate of Babylon.


This might just be me, but I'm not seeing what Suiko did that earns her Gate of Babylon as a Phantasm. That's pretty specifically Gilgamesh's thing.
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This might just be me, but I'm not seeing what Suiko did that earns her Gate of Babylon as a Phantasm. That's pretty specifically Gilgamesh's thing.


Yeah Golden Rule makes sense, but Gate of Babylon is an ability very unique to the King of Heroes. Maybe use something a bit similar?
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This might just be me, but I'm not seeing what Suiko did that earns her Gate of Babylon as a Phantasm. That's pretty specifically Gilgamesh's thing.

It technically is possible to have Gate of Babylon because Gilgamesh does reveal that he has many keys to open his dimensional vault except he threw all of them away. Someone could very well have found one of these keys, but even then it's stated that if you do find such a key you only get to access your own personal vault rather than Gilgamesh's.
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I just a quick reminder that this isn't a holy grail war. As far as I know there aren't limited spots. I'll get to reading and accepting sheets in a bit.
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For everyone:
ONE noble phantasm! ONE!
Be sure to check the rules!


I'll get to the master later.


Okay. *cracks knuckles*
First off, you're missing something from the rules. Please read them to see what it is. I think I see it but maybe put it somewhere else as well

Next, I would prefer you to have one Noble Phantasm. The knife is good, and you don't have to have it decline in effectiveness, but the curse is a problem as you could be virtually immortal, which presents a problem. Also it could be loosely interpreted and it'd just be a huge issue and hassle later on. ex. 'But my character was born by c-section' or 'but mine was born magically' and so on and they don't need evidence.

Then please explain your abilities, the names give us a vague idea of what they could be, but I'd like to know what they do.

History, you say that the legend was reinterpreted, but pretty much this was a real person so he shouldn't have been affected by that. How does what Willy Shakes did change him as a person?



You're also missing something from the rules. Read them again, please.

I don't see anything else wrong with it right now.



Okay, like I said with the other guy, only 1 noble phantasm. Either one is fine, but it can only be one.

I don't see anything else wrong with the sheet.

Can a servant have healing/support abilities?

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Username: Suiko
Class Name: Caster
True Name: Empress Suiko
Country of Origin: Japan
Age: 27
Gender: Female
Master: Prefers to serve a Master who will negotiate.
Abilities: Mostly support/administrative/defensive abilities. Some ideas I had were:
Noble Phantasm: Gate of Babylon. Charisma. Divinity. Golden Rule.
But these can be changed.
Appearance:
Personality: Suiko negotiates well with foreigners. Sometimes she is quiet and prefers some alone time for reading tactics and enjoying walks on the garden terrace. Suiko has a few flaws, mainly that she sometimes feels inadequate. She wonders why so many people trust her to lead them when she feels that she cannot lead herself. However, she has a strategic and tactical mindset that allows for optimal placement of resources and goals to be reached. Sometimes she spends too much time in her head and doesn't say what she's thinking.
Short Biography: Suiko as served as an administrator in a kingdom a long time ago. She enacted rules and kept peace. During her rule, conferences with neighboring courts were opened and negotiations had. She also declined requests from powerful officials that sought to take territory away from the mainland.

Catchphrase: "The walls aren't high enough."

I can tone the abilities down if this is too powerful. Also I play league of legends on NA too! My name is Suikaz.


Yeah, they can. Once again, please only 1 noble phantasm. Gate of Babylon is used by Gilgamesh, and is used to summon a lot of swords. Just to give you an idea for how it's used in the show. I won't critique this because it's not yet done.



Just a question about his Noble Phantasm. Does he still get damage, ie: could it be possible for him to get an arm chopped off? Or is he immune to damage? You mention that he's immune to damage and pain, but can it still be inflicted?

Nice use of the internet. Maybe make it so that if he gets hit on his foot that he gets hurt instead of his heel, because I dunno about you but a heel is a hard target to hit, and they only hit it because of a god's assistance.

I'm iffy on the shield, but as long as it's just a plain shield it's fine. Keep in mind that a lance is a two handed weapon, and thus that shield might get to be a bit of hindrance.



To start:
She can't really cast magic herself.


She can't be a master if she can't summon something on her own. :| Like, this is a cool concept, but she can't be a master if she can't summon something.

the Ivory Flory

What is this? Seriously I'm confused.

You could alter this by making her a magekiller, someone who uses some magic (not much) to kill mages and monsters. There was a character in the show whose whole job was killing mages and used very little magic to do so.

now I'm going to go stumble off and make my own sheets.
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Is it possible to be a masterless servant?
Sorta like how Gilgamesh was after the 4th war chilling by himself with his incarnated body.
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Hmm, probably, but even then you'd need a source of mana, which Gilgamesh had only because he had a reincarnated body.
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Hmm, probably, but even then you'd need a source of mana, which Gilgamesh had only because he had a reincarnated body.


Yeah of course. Gilgamesh had the support of draining the magical energy of orphans in good old neighborhood totally friendly priest Kirei's orphanage, but I don't think doing something similar would be too effective in regards to keeping stuff secret. Will there be any repercussions to manipulating and using random people?
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Yeah of course. Gilgamesh had the support of draining the magical energy of orphans in good old neighborhood totally friendly priest Kirei's orphanage, but I don't think doing something similar would be too effective in regards to keeping stuff secret. Will there be any repercussions to manipulating and using random people?


If they're mostly NPCs and non-mages probably not, but remember that the Eden Magi are looking for Servants and Masters to wipe them out, so a sudden case of mana draining might draw their attention.
damn I really need to finish Stay Night, I'm on the second season so not much spoilers me but holy shit
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@RainDash
For Achilles Noble Phantasm..
Maybe it would be a better idea to change it up a bit:
He still receives damage on his entire body, but they can't actually damage it?
I don't believe they strictly mention it in the myths, but lets just keep it at that?
He can't be damaged anywhere besides the back of his feet maybe?
His spear and shield are ordinary weapons, so I think it should be fine.

Lancer from the anime wielded 2 spears, I think wielding a spear and a shield at once should be fine?

As for my master, Kasumi, maybe I should change my wording.
She can cast magic, she just doesn't out of choice as she hates magic.
I think this would allow her to be a master?

As for the Ivory Flower thing, I actually meant The Flower of Eden. She wants to use the power to erase magic from the world.

She is a bit like Kiritsugu from the anime, I meant for her to be some form of magekiller. Her ideal is different though, she is against the use of magic, so she would rather not use it (walking on walls etc is magic but still).

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@RainDash
For Achilles Noble Phantasm..
Maybe it would be a better idea to change it up a bit:
He still receives damage on his entire body, but they can't actually damage it?
I don't believe they strictly mention it in the myths, but lets just keep it at that?
He can't be damaged anywhere besides the back of his feet maybe?
His spear and shield are ordinary weapons, so I think it should be fine.

Lancer from the anime wielded 2 spears, I think wielding a spear and a shield at once should be fine?

As for my master, Kasumi, maybe I should change my wording.
She can cast magic, she just doesn't out of choice as she hates magic.
I think this would allow her to be a master?

As for the Ivory Flower thing, I actually meant The Flower of Eden. She wants to use the power to erase magic from the world.

She is a bit like Kiritsugu from the anime, I meant for her to be some form of magekiller. Her ideal is different though, she is against the use of magic, so she would rather not use it (walking on walls etc is magic but still).


I believe Achilles actually had his elbow sliced open when he got hit by another person's spear throw in the myth. Maybe have a huge damage resistance but it starts losing effectiveness against very strong attacks?

Or you could do the Nasuverse Achilles variant and have his invulnerability be disabled after his heel gets hit once.
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@RainDash
For Achilles Noble Phantasm..
Maybe it would be a better idea to change it up a bit:
He still receives damage on his entire body, but they can't actually damage it?
I don't believe they strictly mention it in the myths, but lets just keep it at that?
He can't be damaged anywhere besides the back of his feet maybe?
His spear and shield are ordinary weapons, so I think it should be fine.

Lancer from the anime wielded 2 spears, I think wielding a spear and a shield at once should be fine?

As for my master, Kasumi, maybe I should change my wording.
She can cast magic, she just doesn't out of choice as she hates magic.
I think this would allow her to be a master?

As for the Ivory Flower thing, I actually meant The Flower of Eden. She wants to use the power to erase magic from the world.

She is a bit like Kiritsugu from the anime, I meant for her to be some form of magekiller. Her ideal is different though, she is against the use of magic, so she would rather not use it (walking on walls etc is magic but still).


I think he could get wounds, but doesn't feel pain except on his heels?
Plus I know, but a shield limits the flexibility of the arm. Just something to keep in mind, and a Lancer wouldn't have too much trouble with it, but being aware of it affects how you write your fighting.

Just keep in mind a Master also summons a servant, using magic.
That makes sense.
Okay.

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I believe Achilles actually had his elbow sliced open when he got hit by another person's spear throw in the myth. Maybe have a huge damage resistance but it starts losing effectiveness against very strong attacks?

Or you could do the Nasuverse Achilles variant and have his invulnerability be disabled after his heel gets hit once.


This also works.
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Oh, I didn't know that about his myth.
Well, we could follow the nasuverse version of his ability (didn't know he even existed there tbh) and make him immune to all damage besides divine damage until he gets hit in his heel, permanently disabling his noble phantasm?

I'll keep the shield-wielding in mind during writing.
As for the summoning process... Maybe she assassinated somebody who was about to summon a servant, and she continued the summoning out of curiosity, just to see what happens?
It could work imo.

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Okay. *cracks knuckles*
First off, you're missing something from the rules. Please read them to see what it is. I think I see it but maybe put it somewhere else as well

Next, I would prefer you to have one Noble Phantasm. The knife is good, and you don't have to have it decline in effectiveness, but the curse is a problem as you could be virtually immortal, which presents a problem. Also it could be loosely interpreted and it'd just be a huge issue and hassle later on. ex. 'But my character was born by c-section' or 'but mine was born magically' and so on and they don't need evidence.

Then please explain your abilities, the names give us a vague idea of what they could be, but I'd like to know what they do.

History, you say that the legend was reinterpreted, but pretty much this was a real person so he shouldn't have been affected by that. How does what Willy Shakes did change him as a person?


C Section was silly, and I wasn't going to have that apply to the legend, since you still were born of woman. It was just in an unconventional way. The only way you could circumvent it is if you were a woman, or had high enough Divinity that you basically weren't human anymore. Besides, this is Nasu. Don't forget the Riders, Beasts, the genderbending, etc. He's far from invincible.

But since we're only allowed one phantasm. I'll just scrap it.

Fine, I'll do that. It was late, I was tired.

Willy matters because it's fame that gets you into the Throne of heroes and makes you a servant in the first place. Macbeth is famous in the modern day because of Shakespreare. That's not to say that the actual Macbeth isn't in the Throne. This master just drew the short straw and got a Macbeth who has been heavily influenced by Shakespeare's play. Kinda like how Vlad gets whammied due to Dracula's legend.
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