Alright @Tulpa, you asked for this.
>Holy shit. I'm terrified.
"OMG GUIS IM LIRALLY SHAKING RITE NAO"
Just because someone doesn't conform to your way of thinking regarding a certain topic doesn't mean you should demonize them and use fear tactics to try and ostracize them. This method of argumentation is shown particularly well in the "Two Minutes Hate" found in 1984, where like-minded individuals express all their anger and vitriol at the "other", someone who is "the source of all their problems". Just like how you label me as the other, as the enemy, for being pro-Trump and climate change skeptical. I am now the source of your problems, naturally, because it is easy to hate me as I differ fundamentally from the beliefs of you and those who you surround yourself with.
>Trump supporters are honestly the worst, morally depraved people that I've ever had the misfortune to share this society with
Not the pedophiles in the upper echelons of government and business. Not the billionaires who intervene in our governmental processes and in our cultural discourse. Not the people who would have your way of life destroyed for having a belief different from them.
No, Trump supporters are the problem. The people who disagree with you, they're the problem. The people who challenge conventional wisdom, they're the problem. The people who want to preserve a way of life that has been destroyed by the very same people who left them behind. They're the problem.
>Bill of Humans Rights torn apart and all the freedoms that we are privileged with today to be taken away before people honestly wake up
We want to take away none of your freedoms. Sure, we won't answer to a globalist treatise built for special interests and disconnected from every distinct culture on this green earth, but the one thing we will answer to is the people who share this country with us and share our values with us. Stop the fear politics. Fear LOST the election. People are TIRED of being scared for no reason. They're TIRED of being told how to think and how to feel and that they are weak. They're TIRED of terror.
>Trump supporters can not be argued with. It's Scientology all over again, and everyone is drinking the kool-aid.
More like SocJus is the one that can't be argued with. "Drinking kool-aid"? We took the red pill, not the kool-aid. We see the fault of not focusing on the people closest to you, of one world government, of the deracination of society, of the destruction of morality, of the constant fear-mongering perpetrated by detached individuals who work for special interests. We're the ones who are most skeptical of the status quo, of the accepted ideology. We're the ones that fact check the demagogues and "experts" who are driven by unknown interests. It is people such as you who spread a certain ideology with no introspection of understanding of different points of view. It is you who has drunk the kool-aide, not us.
>Trumpism is a personality cult, and that is not hyperbole.
Regardless of the fact that this statement is preceded by an unverifiable appeal to ethos, this too is fear-mongering. Trump is a populist, yes. He appeals to the people and the people rally behind him and his ideals because of that. He is their agent. They are not driven by him. He has had to constantly kowtow to the average American in order to retain his base, because they wouldn't have come to him.
>Future generations are going to hate you. I mean, absolutely despise you. Are you happy with the legacy being left behind, and the planet that our grandchildren will be left with?
Sure they will.
"Is it a villain you want? I'll play the part. After all, what is a drama without a villain? What is the building of this grand road if not a drama? This business is not for the weak of heart. It is a thorny, brutal affair that rewards the lion for his ferocity. But what of the zebra? What of the poor zebra? Well, the zebra's eaten, as the zebra should be. Make no mistake, blood will be spilled, lives will be lost, fortunes will be made, men will be ruined. There will be betrayal and scandals, and perfidy of epic proportions, but the lion - shall - prevail! You see, the secret I know is this. All of history is driven by the lion. We drag the poor zebra, kicking and braying, staining the earth with its cheap blood. History doesn't remember us fondly, but then history is written by the zebra for the zebra. One hundred years hence, when this railroad spans the continent, and America rises to be the greatest power the world has seen, I will be remembered as a caitiff, a malefactor, who only operated out of greed for personal gain. All true, all true, but remember this: without me and men like me, your glorious railroad would never be built."
My people will be remembered for their repudiation of the globalist cabals. We will be the ones that preserve the diversity of people by dismantling the system that leads us into a fiery pit of destruction and slavery. We will not be slaves to shadowy media companies or political groups. We will preserve the things that made each nation in the world a great nation: borders, language, culture. We will turn back the collision course that modern liberalism is sending us spiraling towards. Of course, we will do this while the zebra kicks and screams . . . but it is for the best.
>I'll just leave this here, though I doubt one video will break through the clouds of Trumpism. At this point, I don't think anything can. Anything. Not until the Man himself shows his true Jim Jones colors. I strongly doubt that anyone would bother to pick up a book these days, but whatever.
Pseudo-poets won't sway me to your side. Neither will books of unknown nature that propagate points of unknown validity. You demonize Trump and his supporters, acting as if you're soooooo right, that everything would be fine if we just listened to you. The thing is, we tried doing that, but it didn't work, and that's why every smarmy and smug comedian in a suit and tie was awestruck by the election: because we dared think differently.
>The world has suffered too many petulant politicians.
And I have suffered under too many petulant individuals who proclaim their beliefs are better than mine because they think what all the media thinks.
>We look back on our ancestors and see the backwards society that they lived in
It is exactly this mentality that brought us to this point. Rather than looking back on history and respecting what made civilizations great, we willingly destroy the values they had fought to give us and the moral codes that made us great in the first place.
>As for the Trumpism that is even leaking on here of all places - I'm done. I'm honestly done. How do you argue with this? There is no arguing anyway. What world am I living in?
You break down because someone has a differing opinion? Is this what humanity has come to? Is this the world I am living in? No matter how much you try to preserve a hugbox of identical viewpoints, the real world is filled with facts, rhetoric, and conflict. That is what has brought us to this point in history, and that is how it should continue to be.
>Bill of Human Rights was just and fair
Wow, a piece of commandments written by some globalist governmental body is incongruent with the beliefs of many people of many cultures? Who knew!
>The only thing that I leave in this hot topic of the recent political candidate are these two pieces of literature that any person who believes that they deserve a say should read before they preach.
Words are the most dangerous weapon. Every word means the world.
Yes, I read both. Both are pertinent to today's world, as both show the flaw in modern society. Huxley and Orwell both create worlds where everyone thinks the same way. A world which clearly you would enjoy. However, both authors make it clear that these worlds of only agreement lead to perversion of humanity and the subjugation of the people. I don't want to be controlled by giant conglomerates. Do you?
tl,dr: no u
>Holy shit. I'm terrified.
"OMG GUIS IM LIRALLY SHAKING RITE NAO"
Just because someone doesn't conform to your way of thinking regarding a certain topic doesn't mean you should demonize them and use fear tactics to try and ostracize them. This method of argumentation is shown particularly well in the "Two Minutes Hate" found in 1984, where like-minded individuals express all their anger and vitriol at the "other", someone who is "the source of all their problems". Just like how you label me as the other, as the enemy, for being pro-Trump and climate change skeptical. I am now the source of your problems, naturally, because it is easy to hate me as I differ fundamentally from the beliefs of you and those who you surround yourself with.
>Trump supporters are honestly the worst, morally depraved people that I've ever had the misfortune to share this society with
Not the pedophiles in the upper echelons of government and business. Not the billionaires who intervene in our governmental processes and in our cultural discourse. Not the people who would have your way of life destroyed for having a belief different from them.
No, Trump supporters are the problem. The people who disagree with you, they're the problem. The people who challenge conventional wisdom, they're the problem. The people who want to preserve a way of life that has been destroyed by the very same people who left them behind. They're the problem.
>Bill of Humans Rights torn apart and all the freedoms that we are privileged with today to be taken away before people honestly wake up
We want to take away none of your freedoms. Sure, we won't answer to a globalist treatise built for special interests and disconnected from every distinct culture on this green earth, but the one thing we will answer to is the people who share this country with us and share our values with us. Stop the fear politics. Fear LOST the election. People are TIRED of being scared for no reason. They're TIRED of being told how to think and how to feel and that they are weak. They're TIRED of terror.
>Trump supporters can not be argued with. It's Scientology all over again, and everyone is drinking the kool-aid.
More like SocJus is the one that can't be argued with. "Drinking kool-aid"? We took the red pill, not the kool-aid. We see the fault of not focusing on the people closest to you, of one world government, of the deracination of society, of the destruction of morality, of the constant fear-mongering perpetrated by detached individuals who work for special interests. We're the ones who are most skeptical of the status quo, of the accepted ideology. We're the ones that fact check the demagogues and "experts" who are driven by unknown interests. It is people such as you who spread a certain ideology with no introspection of understanding of different points of view. It is you who has drunk the kool-aide, not us.
>Trumpism is a personality cult, and that is not hyperbole.
Regardless of the fact that this statement is preceded by an unverifiable appeal to ethos, this too is fear-mongering. Trump is a populist, yes. He appeals to the people and the people rally behind him and his ideals because of that. He is their agent. They are not driven by him. He has had to constantly kowtow to the average American in order to retain his base, because they wouldn't have come to him.
>Future generations are going to hate you. I mean, absolutely despise you. Are you happy with the legacy being left behind, and the planet that our grandchildren will be left with?
Sure they will.
"Is it a villain you want? I'll play the part. After all, what is a drama without a villain? What is the building of this grand road if not a drama? This business is not for the weak of heart. It is a thorny, brutal affair that rewards the lion for his ferocity. But what of the zebra? What of the poor zebra? Well, the zebra's eaten, as the zebra should be. Make no mistake, blood will be spilled, lives will be lost, fortunes will be made, men will be ruined. There will be betrayal and scandals, and perfidy of epic proportions, but the lion - shall - prevail! You see, the secret I know is this. All of history is driven by the lion. We drag the poor zebra, kicking and braying, staining the earth with its cheap blood. History doesn't remember us fondly, but then history is written by the zebra for the zebra. One hundred years hence, when this railroad spans the continent, and America rises to be the greatest power the world has seen, I will be remembered as a caitiff, a malefactor, who only operated out of greed for personal gain. All true, all true, but remember this: without me and men like me, your glorious railroad would never be built."
My people will be remembered for their repudiation of the globalist cabals. We will be the ones that preserve the diversity of people by dismantling the system that leads us into a fiery pit of destruction and slavery. We will not be slaves to shadowy media companies or political groups. We will preserve the things that made each nation in the world a great nation: borders, language, culture. We will turn back the collision course that modern liberalism is sending us spiraling towards. Of course, we will do this while the zebra kicks and screams . . . but it is for the best.
>I'll just leave this here, though I doubt one video will break through the clouds of Trumpism. At this point, I don't think anything can. Anything. Not until the Man himself shows his true Jim Jones colors. I strongly doubt that anyone would bother to pick up a book these days, but whatever.
Pseudo-poets won't sway me to your side. Neither will books of unknown nature that propagate points of unknown validity. You demonize Trump and his supporters, acting as if you're soooooo right, that everything would be fine if we just listened to you. The thing is, we tried doing that, but it didn't work, and that's why every smarmy and smug comedian in a suit and tie was awestruck by the election: because we dared think differently.
>The world has suffered too many petulant politicians.
And I have suffered under too many petulant individuals who proclaim their beliefs are better than mine because they think what all the media thinks.
>We look back on our ancestors and see the backwards society that they lived in
It is exactly this mentality that brought us to this point. Rather than looking back on history and respecting what made civilizations great, we willingly destroy the values they had fought to give us and the moral codes that made us great in the first place.
>As for the Trumpism that is even leaking on here of all places - I'm done. I'm honestly done. How do you argue with this? There is no arguing anyway. What world am I living in?
You break down because someone has a differing opinion? Is this what humanity has come to? Is this the world I am living in? No matter how much you try to preserve a hugbox of identical viewpoints, the real world is filled with facts, rhetoric, and conflict. That is what has brought us to this point in history, and that is how it should continue to be.
>Bill of Human Rights was just and fair
Wow, a piece of commandments written by some globalist governmental body is incongruent with the beliefs of many people of many cultures? Who knew!
>The only thing that I leave in this hot topic of the recent political candidate are these two pieces of literature that any person who believes that they deserve a say should read before they preach.
Words are the most dangerous weapon. Every word means the world.
Yes, I read both. Both are pertinent to today's world, as both show the flaw in modern society. Huxley and Orwell both create worlds where everyone thinks the same way. A world which clearly you would enjoy. However, both authors make it clear that these worlds of only agreement lead to perversion of humanity and the subjugation of the people. I don't want to be controlled by giant conglomerates. Do you?
tl,dr: no u
