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Byrd's dudes are on the west. There's an archipelago on the west side too.


I really just need more a picture than the original applications guys.

Site doesn't care who they are.
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Wa-Alaikum-Salaam?

Now you have to say something to me in Greek or else it's not fair :p


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I was thinking about the religious structure of this world and was thinking: Should we whip up a Visha religion so that we have a common basis to work with? I had considered mentioning generally accepted deities in posts, but I doubt they would stick if it were just something I did. It might help to unify the storyline


I gave Kassarock a pretty basic idea of what Visha faith was like, since I was going to discuss it as sort of the ideological opposite of what groups within Manya-Samyaa believe.

The general perception of their religion is a concept of the perfection of the self through exerting force against the outside world and conquering it. Whether through industry or in military concept. It's the spiritual right of an individual to seek some part of the world to conquer and to become its god, so to speak. Comparable to Jainism in the real world, they don't really have a god. Or if there were: they exist to conquer them and become Gods themselves.

There isn't a large emphasis on inward perfection since it's unimportant. What's important is outward perfection and strength and projecting that as best possible. The deaths or conditions of other races are unimportant, as all should be slave to them, the masters. It's driven pretty heartily by the idea of ego. Good karma is acquired through physical success; never mind being greedy, lustful, or lazy. Each flaw against one's spirit is useful in becoming a god or surmountable by some mean and there needs to be no - or little - push to correct it.

Of course in the end this philosophy could have changed. But as a whole they hold a theological concept of exerting force outwards until they reach godliness and mastery of all points, in this life, in their next life, and over the four realms of reincarnation.

By that measure their third eye may also fill a sort of physical aid to the spiritual mission by not only seeing the world through a third point, but being able to "see into others".

This would stand opposite of what religion in Manya-Samyaa - or anywhere else that adopts their faith - would discuss. The Visha faith is considered oppressive and evil for its selfless mindset. Instead of seeking outward conquest it stresses inward perfection to make a more divine being. Just in a variety of many different ways. Whether in meditation or seeking any one of many gods to follow as a disciple.
@Dinh AaronMk

Excellent points.

You are perfectly right that they could or even perhaps would have developed agriculture during the time they have spent settled. Mind you, they have not been there since the fall of the Vishput, but came there long after (as stated in the application). It is also noted that they are very conservative and, although not spelled out directly, xenophobic. Adopting customs from a people they readily defeated and perhaps considered weak does not seem likely to a culture like that.

I do however wish to satisfy you and am ready to meet you halfway. I could add a paragraph about some tribes recently turning to agriculture or something. Would that be enough?

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I also believe gorgenmast refers in his post to the archipelago with the volcanic island in the northwest, whereas I am in the northeast. We are nowhere near eachother.


To address last first: there are people related to his own nearby, but not his own directly. They're named within his application and how they got there.

And fair enough I suppose.
* Stumbles drunkenly into thread rambling about a post he has half done, then leaves for another twelve days. *

Edit: Thirteen days.


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I had to enter into deliberations with Vilage on the matter of your app. I would Gorgen if he was on, since he has people related to his own people in the region (namely in the islands south of you, and I'm holding off making an official comment until he gives me a siren app). And since concerns of avoiding random bubbles have come to me, it's probably best to say something.

The biggest issue and hole is the claimed life-style your people have. It's been four-hundred years since the collapse of the Vishput so they would have been there for about that long at least. That's more than long enough for even the most nomadic of culture to mostly adopt a life-style adapted to that region. And in an area with a defined river and so coastal and lush chances are agriculture would have been picked up, whether on their own or adapted from the "exterminated" locals.

A comparison may be drawn from the Magyar or the semi-nomadic Arabs who in settling in or conquering their respective areas (to the Magyar Hungary and the Arabs everything else). Where there was a present agricultural complex for them to adopt or even cities pockets of their society would have adapted and grown from there. In the case of the Arabs it was them adapting parts of Greek culture and using the Byzantine administrative systems from which they built their cosmopolitan, urban culture. For the Magyar it was taking over the admittedly sparse farming homesteads in the Carpathian basin where Hungary would be born.

Point being, after four hundred years nomad-ism and a food source revolving around goat herding would have fallen by the way side or would be on the way to doing so. It's not to say that it would all but disappear, since even after a thousand or more years of having a urban society the Arab populations still have their nomad roots and the Bedouin - an Arab tribe - still freely practice a nomadic lifestyle despite the transition from semi-nomadism to urbanism in their more populous family tree.

And that region having Visha influence to and having been administrated by them from below there would have been some manner of organization to keep the local above-ground populations producing for them.
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