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So seeing how everyone is sort of bunching up in the mid-west/west-coast I figured I might toss this out for future reference:

Without trains, anything on the west-side of the country won't be going east. Or not a lot of things like agricultural produce, which outside of major large-scale manufacturer operations anywhere won't be much, and if there was any east-bound trade from the west it certainly wouldn't navigate that great American Desert. And even when it was being conquered for westward expansion the railroad was really the ones responsible because they paid folk to move out there and settle so they could build towns, and they also supplied the resources for that. The discerning traveler might make better time hitting the Rio Grande to pop out in the Golf by crossing the Chihuahua State if they're starting off in the Tabernacle Empire, and that is if they even want to go east with the entire Western Sea Board open to them from the Baja region and San Diego.

Likewise, economic activity in the Great Lakes would be pretty weak and the only major economic activity would be local and within those states at the lake, and maybe down the Mississippi River through the Illinois-Michigan Canal. But in a region where the only non-perishable industry has been northern timber and copper, there's not a lot of export opportunity for long-distance trade. In fact, the only thing of significant trade value historically for the region are perishable food stuffs. And this perishable food stuffs would in most cases expire before reaching major east-coast markets if hauled by land, even if you used the lakes as far as Niagra to shave time, you're getting it as far as Buffalo, New York before it starts to get risky for an over-land trek. The only saving grace that might even survive in this world for the Great Lakes and greater Mid West region would be the Erie Canal, and it's pretty much the only thing outside of the interstate rail system that made Michigan, Ohio, and Illinois economically viable options of settlement despite their over-all very fertile soil.

Before the canal was built farmers were forced to plow the very shit soil and face the very shit weather of New England out of economic necessity, the ports were nearby (Boston, New York) and their produce could get out to market. But once the canal opened a New England farmer became a Mid Western farmer because they could grow more in abundance in much more generous soil and still had safe access to the markets of New York and beyond as they did as New England farmers. Michigan wheat was actually very much coveted.

But anything passing from the west to east isn't likely very much and handled like the Silk Road anyways the distance is so vast and a single unbroken caravan across land would be very expensive.

Myself and Ms. Texas might honestly be the only economically viable players. The Caliphate is one pissed-off New-York away from being rendered economically like any interior European nation for the time, poor, bereft of activity.

And I think while I'm on this tract of mind, without any large scale transportation for long distances most of the 'interior' activity for the likes of myself and The Dow Dragon would be - if not invested already in raw material extraction - would be pretty minimal and devoted to keeping existing settlements and communities alive. It would be a subsistence operation, which is a large part of the Tabernacle Empire's agriculture activity in those areas already. The only sort of agriculture that can last the distance from field to market would be ranching. But export-minded agriculture would be much more on the coast and trade-navigable rivers, and those would be the richer regions.

Jes' sayin' fams.

EDIT - I double checked the navigability of the Rio Grande and apperantly it's pretty much unusable for large boats upriver from Rio Grande City, only that small section of the river between it and Brownsville is usable, so @The Dow Dragon only really controls the only usable section of the river commercially.

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I frankly don't know why we let the bourgiese get all the . We should if anything rise in class conscious revolt to seize the means of . It is only then that when the Vanguard has seized the means of that can be equally distributed among all peoples and with it any and all class inequality destroyed.

Do NRPs have to be sandboxes to have players?

I'm of the oppinion that it's helpful to have a certain level of freedom for NRPs. So I'd lean towards it being a Sandbox. That way hopefully the writers have the chance to try on their shoes and make it fit before going out if they haven't already. But then for those who might have trouble getting started it might help then for there to be something central. I hesitate to ever describe this as 'the plot' because that sounds too rigid, but I'd call it a concept for the people involved to associate with or orbit around as they write.

Failing that, then I would say it should be the responsibility of the GM to act as this central premise his or herself when a central story pretense is absent to act as the anchor that brings players together to interaction. Whether or not that's the nation that's the most politically central to the world, the strongest, or the one on the warpath (or diplomatic or economic warpath) to whip up points of conflict. The key thing in politics internationally is the interaction between nations in the diplomatic sphere and the blocs which they act through to act and respond to one another; if any sort of interaction even in a sandbox NRP that doesn't become relevant to everyone in some way is gone then so will the purpose.

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I'm absolutely in agreement that its not a political ideology like conservatism, but much like something like BLM or Gamergate its movement, reactionary that seems to center around some sort of set of ideas. Now you are categorising them as edgy shit posters which a number of them probably are, but the reality is that the term Alt Right was actually created by Richard Spencer and there are actual websites, radio shows, and institutes dedicated to this thing. Now I don't know who 'truly' represents these folk but its not as fleeting and arbitrary as you are making it seem.

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Well let's not forget that at this moment the Alt-Right isn't exactly a solid in what it thinks of itself. There was a huge fight among them prior to the inauguration over who should attend their Deploraball inauguration party; should racist demagogues be allowed to speak or not to speak?

It was a divisive fight, like whether or not white people should marry Asians to the old far-right.

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