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Current "Soon you will have forgotten all things. And soon all things will have forgotten you."
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I'd like to say goodbye to everyone here, it's been a real joy playing with you all and I'll sorely miss this RP, but rl calls.

Before I go, I'd like to make three requests, and they're as neutral as a player who is leaving and has no further interests to push forward can be:

Enjoy the game.
Stop nitpicking.
Don't overthink every single little thing (a tad different from nitpicking.)
Try not to mix the IC with the OOC (the war being fought is largely, though not completely, a manifestation of OOC hostilities.)
Don't argue...or try not to.
Enjoy the game.

It's been a good run, and believe it or not, I've enjoyed playing with you all (yes, even with Nex, as much as I hate to admit, something about the way he over-reacts to things gives me a real kick :P)

So, enjoy the game, don't stick with the OTL, and don't get annoyed at others when they don't. Adios!
@Mostly, just read back through my later posts and it should hopefully make some sense.

In any case, I'm sorry guys, but rl life has finally caught up with me and I need to face it. I've decided to leave the Guild.
I know I haven't been the best GM, and for that I'm sorry. I admit I did lose interest slightly over the long period between the interest check and OOC, and I allowed other RP's to take priority. I can't say how apologetic I am.

If you guys want to continue this RP, I nominate Click This as GM, though if you want to vote on the matter, go for it. I hope that if this goes on, the next GM will do it justice, because you've all been unbelievably dedicated.

Once again, I'm really sorry, and I wish you all the very best.
NarcolepticSailor said
I don't see how reclaiming Belgium is the same as the demands an uncivilized nation are trying to make.


This is the last I'm going to say before I go.

China...uncivilised???!!! I give up.
The Nexerus said
^ I already did. I'll neglect commenting on it in full, but suffice to say I think its even more silly than the Anglo-French blockade of the Atlantic Ocean and declaration of war on the United States of America. Any amount of realism has gone out the window at this point, not necessarily in the tone of writing, but in the actual actions and decisions being made.


Says the guy who conquered Belgium *cough*

The Nexerus said
Even if we pretend that there is anything more than a superficial relationship between the Turks of Anatolia and the Turkic peoples of Central Asia (especially in the late 19th century), what relation do the have to the Turks?


*Read in as patronising a voice as possible*

Once upon a time, long ago, the Mongols did a lot of baaaad things. They conquered many places. Like China. And much of Russia. And they even reached Anatolia and eastern Europe. That was looong ago. The Mongol Empire broke up into many pieces. Many converted to Islam. They had wars with the non-Muslim Mongols. They grew weak, and China regained its independence. Over the years, Mongols settled all over the place. The Tatars, Uzbeks, Kazakhs, Turks and others, are all linked with those Mongols and the Chinese they mingled with in some way or another. The end.

I don't think we need to look that much deeper in to this.
The Nexerus said
A nation flatly declaring a conflict between a Muslim Empire and a Christian Empire to be 'jihad' is inviting China to declare war on Russia on the basis of a non-existent blood connection between the Turks and the Chinese. I don't think there's any word that describes such a scenario better than 'desperation'.


If you look at where TURKmenistan is on the map, you'll notice it's right next to China. The Turks came about as a result of the Mongol invasions and the many Khanates which Russia later conquered.

In any case, all things in the IC are rhetoric and counter-rhetoric when it comes down to it, whether China even reacts isn't in my plans, I'm just pointing out the potential enemies Russia is making, ICly, rather than debating it here with you :)

@rare, I look forward to reading all your thoughts on the war in Europe as it develops (despite the fact you're awfully anti-Allies)
AegonVI said
Oh Kho you didn't!! Did the Ottomans really just call up China into this war on the basis of blood???


Well, that's one reason, but also the fact that if we don't all do something all non-Slavs, non-Christians in Russia will be slaughtered by the rhetoric I'm reading. Just reacting in the way any right-minded leader in a war would - putting the people and their safety first.

The Nexerus said
Desperation.


Say what you will, I've nothing to be desperate about, you're the one completely blockaded, not me.



With each passing day, our horror grows at the ever more demagogic and intolerant language used by the Russian Empire. As a nation with a significant non-Slavic, non-Christian population, this inflammatory language does not bode well for the people of Russia, who are proud of their all-encompassing Russian identity despite their many ethnic and religious differences.

The Ottoman Empire has for centuries - before Russia was even a passing thought in the minds of the people of Novgorod and Muscovy - been the caretaker of all those who would call themselves subjects of the Ottoman Empire. We have cared for our Muslim, Christian and Jewish subjects, our Slavic, Greek, Turkish, Kurdish, Armenian, Arab, Persian and other people. All lived together, perhaps not always as peacefully as we would have liked, but our tolerance and acceptance for each other cannot be denied, and God and history are our witnesses. Before Russia existed, the Ottoman Empire cared for its people, and even when Russia began making demands that the Christians of the empire be in its care, it was us who cared for them, and us who shall continue to do so.

Russia’s recent rhetoric in regards to its Muslim subjects has been most worrying, its attempts to glorify the Slavic people and make them somehow different from Muslims – even though being a Muslim and a Slav are not mutually exclusive – does not bode well for the future. By spurring hatred against a non-Christian religious group, you open the way for hatred against all non-Christians, such as Jews and Buddhists and many other sects and faiths existing in Russia. And with the hatred against these people of different religions, there will grow hatred for the ethnic groups who follow these religions, the Tatars, non-Christian Slavs, Manchus, Mongols, Uzbeks, Kazakhs, Turkmen, Caucasians, and the list goes on. With time, no doubt, even Christians of other ethnicities will come under the fire of demagogues and hatred will grow even against other Christians.

Thus, in response to these growing dangers for all non-Christians and non-Slavs in Russia, and in response to this clear sign that Russia does not wish to be a nation for all its citizens and peoples, we hereby reject Russian, and any other, authority over Ottoman Christian subjects. As a nation which cannot care for, tolerate and protect its non-Christian, non-Slavic people, and even its Slavic non-Christian people, we do not think it has any moral or religious authority over any Christian subjects of the Ottoman Empire.

Further to this, we cannot sit idly by as our brethren in Russia come under attack, we must rise to protect them. The Ottoman Empire can trace its roots back to the far east, the Turkic people who first united Anatolia so many centuries ago - to give rise to an empire for all its subjects - trace their roots back to the Mongols and the Chinese, and we do not easily forgot the bond of blood we share with our eastern brethren, with the Uzbeks and the Mongols and the Chinese and the Kazakhs and the Tatars, amongst others. Therefore, just as we rise to protect the helpless against Russian oppression, we beseech our brother, the Empire of the Great Qing, to also rise to the responsibility of protecting all eastern peoples under Russian oppression.

We pray to the Almighty that the hatred spewed by the likes of Satan’s Tyrannical Shadow on Earth, Alexander II of Russia, will not lead to permanent damage between the different peoples living under his tyranny, and we assure them that God has not forsaken them, if you show patience and forbearance, then surely He who liberated those before you from oppression will liberate you as well.

His Highness, Grand Vizier Mehmed Fuad Pasha, Prime Minister of the Ottoman Empire
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