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Haha, I think I may have the record for how many times I've changed my orders, though if anyone wishes to challenge me on that, let's go :P
I believe the most I've changed my orders for a single turn might have been four times, and that was the very first turn as the Ottoman Empire in this WiR xD

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I was also just reading that the British actually sided against Barghash in his struggle for power against his brother, resulting in him living in exile for two years. I can see that being a big reason why he'd also not like Europeans too much. If you show him you're on his side. I'm willing to bet he'll be quite happy to cooperate. It's still Wednesday, you have until the end of the day to edit your orders ;) (I always feel better after rewording or tweaking my orders a bit on the final day :P)

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@Pepper it's your choice, but I'll give you my thoughts and you can make up your mind.

Of course he'd be anti-European if they were forcing him to make do without one of the most important parts of his countries economy - the slave-trade. But if you can offer alternatives, I'm sure you'll find him to be very cooperative. A man like Barghash is concerned with developing his nation - pipelines, infrastructure etc. the fact that the Zanzibar has a horrible war record is evidence that they didn't work too much on their military. Thus if you open up trade with the Zanzibar, allowing for a replacement of the slave trade, he'll be content going about his reforms and building up the infrastructure of the Zanzibar, which is all good for you in the end as it means more income from there, and a more developed, militarily weak country if you every choose to take direct control.

You can choose between an incompetent leader (which this Khalifa clearly is) who likes you and will make a big mess, or a competent leader who can be encouraged to like you and will develop your protectorate for you.

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@Pepper, Hmm, your choice, but leadership wise, I think Barghash would be the better option, so long as you breathe down his neck and make it clear the Zanzibar is an Austrian protectorate and he has to make do without slavery. He actually developed the Zanzibar some, meaning you'll be getting more from them as time passes, and kept things under control (unlike Khalifah who caused revolts and barely ruled two years) meaning you won't have to be sending superior Europeans to take care of the problems caused by those inferior creatures in the Zanzibar ;)

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They're moving :P

Note Argentina 1861:



And Argentina 1868:

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You're making it sound more complicated than it is. Just put a post up along the lines of 'free slaves or I'll eat you' and Outcast will do the rolls. If they agree (which I reckon they will as the Zanzibar went about freeing their slaves around this period) then you have no casus belli on them, if they don't agree, then you do your steamrolling. I don't think it's too difficult, unless there is stuff you're not telling us which makes everything so much more complex.

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So Boerd said
I can't sea a difference either.

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Outcast, has he contacted you with his response to the conference?

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Just wondering, has Maxwell responded to the conference you guys are having? Because if he has then I know that he's either ignoring me or missed my messages...

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Dedonus said
I think he was Persia in the last WiR.

It was Afghanistan. And I didn't get a chance to complete my plan since the WiR ended abruptly, so I wasn't going to waste another opportunity to give Afghans their glory :P
I actually didn't know much about modern Afghanistan before the last WiR, since then I've done a lot more reading around, so 1900 should be interesting...if it gets going.