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9 yrs ago
Current You did good, McGregor. Made us proud.
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9 yrs ago
No offense intended. But there's a sweet spot on the sliding scale of realism, and most of the interest checks I usually see skew too far to the realism end for me.
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9 yrs ago
Can't describe how quickly I go from excited to sad when a mecha premise turns out to be realism wankery.

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A nuclear reactor is no more liable to explode, and is clean energy technically.


I just spent literally the last two pages outlining why a nuclear fusion reactor, of the variety Gren would be using, can be explosive. Radioactive at minimum.
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More or less. As it stands, even if you could somehow damage his Fusion Core either by doing enough external damage or somehow getting Gren to literally open himself up for you, the worse that I want him to do is cause a localized radiation leak. You'd have to work a bit harder for him to become a walking warhead. And while Gren is still using the "Old Tech", he has upgraded since he left the White Fang. The fact he won't explode into a Hiroshima bomb is one of the upgrades you could say he got for himself once he cut ties with the White Fang. Removing his new safety features may turn him back into a walking warhead, but right now that's not something he's capable of.


This...

No.

Just no.

Such a failsafe has no even remotely reasonable reason, even taking into account the entire RWBY universe, to exist and would in fact contradict every necessity of the power source you want to use.

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I mean, there's penny, but k.

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It was merely a parallel for him saying how improbable it would be for someone to let a reactor into a school.


Penny is tech Lucius explicitly calls more advanced, and is not even remotely an excuse when the mechanics of her operation have had no explanation. And given that she generates an Aura, she probably runs off of Aura or Dust herself.

Because that's how RWBY tech usually works.
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Someone could have come up with a perfectly valid containment system/failsafe in the case the reactor is even remotely close to a breach. You know, sorta like a nuclear reactor? I mean RWBY has access to dust.

And in the first place, why did anyone even consider letting it's so called students run off and participate in activity that is regulated to the police/military, not 14-18 year olds.


A failsafe in technology Lucius specifically said he picked to be "old and possibly volatile"? As in, specifically to make the point that Gren was using low quality tech? A failsafe for a technology that it's dubious that anyone would have come up with in this setting anyway? All fitted into a reactor small enough to be used within the body of a single person without being detected?

Unlikely to an extreme degree, even- no, especially- taking into account the RWBY universe.

The decision to use teenagers for such jobs isn't even relevant. That's a different conversation and thought process entirely.
It could even be asked who thought it a good idea to give a young teenaged girl a giant scythe that can transform into a high-caliber sniper rifle?

I'unno? Reasons? xD


Sure.

But you can't level a city or two in a single second with a scythe and a sniper rifle.
I know. At this point I'm just resorting to wondering aloud what line of reasoning could possibly even result in anyone thinking that such a reactor, whether it could explode or not (and it's been thoroughly established that even by the in-universe quality of the tech, it could), is even remotely a good idea.
Why is anyone even considering allowing a source with power that significant and that volatile to be on a PC where it could blow up or irradiate the entire damn school, again?

Seriously, why?
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I think a rp based on a show where they somehow have flying ships and mecha, it's not too hard to believe that someone might have a mini reactor implanted in them (Gren could literally just say he has an artificial limb and I doubt the people checking, if at all, at a metal detector, would try say nope you can't go in.)

And here's the thing, RWBY doesn't follow rl logic strictly. I mean flying military ships, semblances? Mecha?

keyword is "None of the ones we created". Pretty sure RWBY doesn't follow the tech tree of reality. They have plenty we don't have.

How much energy Gren would need is never really specified anyway so there's that. I doubt he needs the full on power a city might need.

Whether the RWBY world is capable of creating a small scale fusion reactor, I will have to admit, is a bit of a stretch.


Frankly, not following real life logic makes it more dangerous. Lucius himself said;

However I also chose a purposely less advance and possibly more volatile alternative of nuclear power instead of an Arc Reactor to give the impression that Gren, compared to someone like Penny, uses older quality stuff.


Key words are "less advanced" and "possibly more volatile". A fusion reactor in suitably advanced settings could be hand waved as safe due to having certain fictional safety measures, but a less advanced reactor implanted in one's body that may very well not have worked, in a setting that produces most of its technology through Dust, would not have advanced measures like that.

At the bare minimum, a self sustaining reactor breach would produce an immense amount of very, very bad radiation. More likely? An explosion that is, at the size it would be to be implanted in one's body, equal to or just under the size of what we inflicted on Hiroshima.

As in, enough to level a city. And that's without even touching how the tech would be developed given that almost everything in RWBY runs on Dust.
I never said anything about an explosion. I'm pointing out the effect of a radiation leak from a reactor that is, by definition, leagues above any fusion reactor we have created today.

Fusion reactor we have today work by heating gasses to their fusion point, and as soon as we stop heating them, they repel each other again. Thus the reaction stops. Any reactor that powers something, and as such creates a net positive energy output, will need to be self sustaining. In other words, when the reactor is breached, it will not instantly stop the reaction.

The reaction will continue after reactor breach. Eventually it will collapse, yes, but it is not instant. And until it does you will have an unconfined reaction occurring. Which will both put off a ton of radiation and, yes, have explosive potential. A fusion bomb is by definition an uncontained fusion reaction.

Fusion reactors are only safe by government standards because none of the ones we have created, ever, are on anywhere near the level of what would be powering Gren.


Reposting with slight tweak. I misspoke.
I never said anything about an explosion. I'm pointing out the effect of a radiation leak from a reactor that is, by definition, leagues above any fusion reactor we have created today.

Fusion reactor we have today work by heating gasses to their fusion point, and as soon as we stop heating them, they repel each other again. Thus the reaction stops. Any reactor that powers something, and as such creates a net positive energy output, will need to be self sustaining. In other words, when the heating process stops, it will not instantly stop the reaction.

The reaction will continue after reactor breach. Eventually it will collapse, yes, but it is not instant. And until it does you will have an unconfined reaction occurring. Which will both put off a ton of radiation and, yes, have explosive potential. A fusion bomb is by definition an uncontained fusion reaction.

Fusion reactors are only safe by government standards because none of the ones we have created, ever, are on anywhere near the level of what would be powering Gren.
I know exactly what he's thinking of. I did the research using them to power mecha in another RPG setting.

Breaching a reactor potent enough to power a cyborg, and his weapon systems, would be catastrophic for anyone anywhere near him.
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