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@Prince of Seraphs@Belle Also this makes me wonder precisely what Feoras did, to make Arys so hurt and angry. We say that fey don't feel as strongly as humans, turned or otherwise, and yet her reaction seems rather extreme, even for a human. Feoras loved her, and it was an accident, so just what happened? Of course, overreacting because she's still young isn't out of the question, and probably played a role.


Slept with one of her chambermaids. Fae aren't exactly known to be monogamous.
@Prince of Seraphs Hey now, there's no indication he doesn't want to ally with Spring, but I am a little curious, as I understood Summer to be somewhat closer to Spring.


I'm not saying that's what BlackPanther did but Feoras started probing the idea of allying with Fall and Winter literally the post after Nyx voiced the consideration to attempt his removal from the Summer throne and when it was casually commented upon she got kind of defensive and brought up characters knowing stuff from the OOC that they shouldn't IC. Seems like the concept was on her mind.

*shrug* Falk doesn't seem the sort to form close ties often. I can see where he wants to be on the same side as Winter -- and if he's wise, to have her unable to strike at him. But I do question the wisdom of assuming friendship is a guarantee, and of trying to specifically exclude Spring in the first place. It's an interesting move, for sure. @BlackPanther I wonder if he's impulsive, or if he has reasoning behind it....


Politically speaking though I wouldn't say it is wise. Not because my Court is the one being excluded but because the Seelie and Unseelie Courts have a long history of being on the opposite side of conflict and if an alliance of the two Unseelie's and Summer were to be initiated the next logical step would be an attempted anexing of Spring as it possesses many resources that Fall and especially Winter needs. If Spring were to be taken over by a largely Unseelie Alliance their would be no one for Feoras to turn to should the Alliance break and Winter and Fall turn on him. The idea is only a concrete one if he can be sure with absolute certainty that the Unseelie Courts won't ally against him and given the lifespan of fae and their general natures that is the very last thing anyone should be assuming. Essentially he would need to have a stronger alliance with at least one of the Unseelies than they do with each other and given the Fall and Winter rulers may soon enter into a marital alliance that is very very unlikely.

It would be rough for Summer if Feoras was still around, though. I'd think he'd try to take back the throne at...just about any cost. Plus his rage being known as it is, leaving him alive is hardly wise for the new ruler.


True it would be unwise but that is assuming that at some point Feoras is in a position for the new ruler to kill him. Even removed from his throne Feoras is a powerful fae who would not go down easily.

Three: again female...I even changed my profile pic to the female black panther...seriously.


I was addressing you referencing Feoras' actions. He is male.
Edit: Also your characters shouldn't be omnipresent and know about it. Just like Feoras has no idea that Spring wants to be rid of him.


Indeed, and the knowledge that Nyx wants Feoras deposed did nothing to influence him suddenly wanting to ally with everyone but Spring.
@BlackPanther this is us, not our chars, silly.

@Prince of Seraphs RIGHT?! *flailing* WHAT DO, OH MIGHTY SPRING RULER? I'm doubting Falk will agree, but if he does...well, then again, he does hate Spring and Nyx. UGH. ...Hm, marriage might be -- no, it's definitely an alliance of sorts. CRUD. Any way I look at this, there's really not much recourse for Spring here. CURSE IT. It's not possible to be closer allies to Winter than Fall is going to be. Adn it's not possible (most likely) to be on good terms with Fall at all. Summer is not particularly strong at the moment...UGH. Plus if Arys does get her heart back...oh wait, no...actually hm. If she didn't want to feel, that implies that she /does/ still care about Summer -- and that he hurt her. So even if she dislikes him, she does care, to some degree. Makes me wonder if she would be in favor of deposing him after all....Although from a strictly OOC standpoint I doubt deposing Feoras is possible. That would leave Panther with nobody to play -- and Summer without a PC leader.


Depose doesn't have to mean kill. He could always play a Feoras in exile.

As far as the heart goes I'd say she does still care which makes the hurt a hundred times worse. Her feelings were frozen not long after the breakup so if unfrozen that wound would be open again. Someone as proud and as powerful as Arys in the midst of a shattered heart with the very real ability to lash out at the person that hurt her. Well I wouldn't want to be Feoras when her heart starts beating again. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.

As for Spring "IF WE BURN YOU BURN WITH US!"
He briefly wondered if that was too bold of a question, but it could be worth it. He wasn't one to start wars, but he would ensure the safety of his court and any friendship. The protection would also cover winter should falk manage to defrost her heart...leaving spring out of it. There would likely be side effects in doing so, but the long run promised more benefits then risks. He wondered what falk would say.


@shylarah
Why do I feel like we just got thrown under the bus?
@Belle Quick question. Grexx is listed as the goblin's true name, with his alias being...various insults. My guess would be Nyx does not know the true name of the emissary, even though @Prince of Seraphs had him use it, yes? Just want to figure out which it is before I have Sini call him a name she shouldn't know, or if I missed something and Grexx is actually the name he's called by in general, and his true name is something else.


"I am called Grexx by my lady, the beautiful and powerful Queen Arys of the Winter Realm,"
Grexx's introduction to Leaf


I'd call him kind of a stupid fae if that actually was his true name.

This is the reason I think the categories on the CS should be labelled "True Name" and "Common Name" it avoids confusion.
I'm gonna be changing Dagon's Bkgrd slightly to fit in with what we've agreed upon in PMs. Just wait for it.

EDIT: Scratch that, we're just gonna stick with what we resolved via PMs.


Does that mean your not changing his CS to reflect whatever that might be? Doesn't that make his CS inaccurate and potentially confusing to new members?
@Prince of Seraphs Pfft, you didn't see the fifteen things I didn't post where I was most definitely thinking more about who was right. *laughing at herself*


Ha ha! She's a barbarian like the rest of us! Welcome Shylarah into the HORDE!
Nyx

Nyx chuckled to himself at Sini's surprise, the shock on her face as priceless as any gold. Like the dutiful knight she was shock soon evaporated in consideration of how this might be turned to their advantage. Sini always offered Nyx good council though sometimes it was more conservative than was to Nyx's taste. "Indeed Arys has set before Falk a challenge. Were it any other fae seeking her hand I would deem the challenge impossible but this is the Fall King we speak of. She has asked Falk to find the ritual with which she froze her head and reverse the effect. Should he do so she will marry him." Nyx hoped that the task set to Falk would delay him for many years to come but in his heart he knew that if Falk truly desired Arys as his match he would find the answer. Nyx would be a fool to assume it would be later rather than sooner.

"Falk believes Cernunnos the last true Archon, he would gladly see me dead if he could be ensured victory with little cost. For now he tolerates me because the damage this Court could do to his in a war far outweighs his dislike of me. If he married Winter's Queen however that would do much to isolate us from deadly weaponry should he declare war." At the very least Arys would not trade with a hostile force that fought against her husband. At the most she would ally with him against both the Seelie Courts. As much as it pained Nyx to admit together the Unseelies were far stronger than the Seelies.

"Cementing ties with Winter is an important step but I believe strengthening Summer would do much to aid us." Nyx spoke no more on this subject for it harkened back to a previous conversation that he and Sini had had. One in which Nyx voiced his consideration for removing Feoras from the position of Summer King to ensure that a stronger leader took his place. Feoras did after all have his title by virtue of his adoptive father and the magic gifted to him, he did not have the people's love as Nyx did or their fear like Falk and Arys. If he could be pushed into a display of weakness his own people very well might rise against him. The question would be when, if it happened at the wrong time Winter might see it as the perfect time to strike before Summer had organized itself.

However Sini and Nyx could not discuss the topic here, it was far from secure. He would perhaps converse with the Slyph before she was sent to Arys' Court. Speaking of which, one of the Dryad's guarding the gate had alerted the pair that the emissary of Winter had finally arrived. It took him long enough considering when he'd sent Leaf to fetch the creature, then again he had sent Leaf to fetch him so perhaps the delay was to be expected.

Nyx made his way back to the palace to receive his guest in the Great Hall. "Sini join me won't you? This new arrival concerns you as well."

Nyx took his seat in the obsidian throne before motioning a guard to show Grexx into the hall. His first impressions of the creature were not inspiring. He was small and weak, he tripped over his own words and looked rather openly terrified of everything around him. Still he was Winter's Emissary deserved respect displayed to his title, from Nyx anyways. The Archon could leave tormenting the poor creature to his Fools. No doubt Leaf had already done something to him on his journey to the palace.

"Welcome Grexx, I am pleased to see that Arys has taken my proposal to heart." Nyx was mildly insulted that with the chance to place one of her own in Nyx's ranks this poor creature was the most Arys thought to send. Then he supposed looks could be deceiving. Perhaps there was more to Grexx than did meet the eye.

Before Nyx had the chance to see more however Pearl appeared from a nook where she'd concealed herself. She approached the creature and did walk several circles around him, studying him closely. Nyx waited to see what she would do as the machinations of Leaf's apprentice always eluded him even as her actions did spark interest.

She smiled at Grexx before she opened her mouth and started to sing a nursery rhyme. "Tick tock goes the clock, now what then shall we play...? Tick tock goes the clock... From Winter you've waylayed..." Over the next few lines her voice slowed to an eerie pace. "Tick tock goes the clock and all the years they fly... tick tock goes the clock till you must surely die..." The smile on Pearl's face ever sweet suddenly look sinister as she took Grexx's hand and shook in after the human fashion. Then she ran off to hide behind one of the pillars of the hall grown from the wooden floor.

"My apologies Grexx, Pearl bless her does not exactly live in the now. You must forgive her her odd tendencies." Though he looked far from sorry and much closer to amused.

Nyx turned to address his knight. "Sini as you can see Grexx is a subject from Winter who will be spending some time with us. In returned you will be journeying to Queen Arys' Court as an adviser to her Ladyship."
@BlackPanther@shylarah@Belle

shylarah is right I'm not trying to be unkind but to be honest I am incredibly brash. It's just the way I go about things. If I have offended you or Belle I am deeply sorry but everything I said regarding discrepancies of information in the RP I don't think becomes invalid simply because it was not you, Belle or LadyRunic that brought them up. At this point I think it would be wise to wait on our dear GM before going any further as I don't think any of us can say definitively one way or another and we're all (except for shylarah) devolving into petty squabbles more concerned with who's right than what the right answer is, myself included in that "all". I'd say we should all take a break and come back in a couple hours with cooler heads.
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