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Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

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dammit, why is everyone advocating nuclear war in this thread.

@Vilageidiotx

Socialism, nuclear war..... same outcome really

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

@Dark Wind@mdk I'd love to know what network/site/paper you consider reliable news.

Ive got no problem shitting on CNN, but you sort of begin to lose credibility if you think infowars, rebel media or fox news are the trustworthy alternatives.

@Dynamo Frokane

I get my news from BBC, and I read Fox News for flavor. Fox is absolutely more trustworthy than CNN, but that's not really the point -- I don't think anybody should trust their news source. If you trust them, they're getting shit past you. I used to read exclusively CNN, but they became unbearable over the last six months and I've had to turn 'em off entirely.

Anyway the proper response to a news article is "Really? Is THAT what you think? Lemme see about that." BBC gives me that, plus some really good (often agenda-driven, but hey) journalism. CNN gives me that "oh for fuck's sake" attitude (like when they write about how it's racist to withdraw from the Paris Accord) and that's not getting me anywhere.

In general, I recommend that people should get their news from somebody they dislike but can tolerate. This approach keeps you informed without playing into your own bias.

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

CNN is a fucking joke. Is trashing CNN from now on "mildly political?" It's all I feel like doing.

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

@mdk oh I don't think my opinion matters to the people of Montana. My opinion doesn't matter to anyone politically but it does make me view them in a negative light. In fact I'll go so far as to say that anyone who thinks assault is funny or laudable is pretty pathetic.

@Penny

And yet they're the winners. Someone ran a campaign poorly enough to lose to THAT GUY.

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

I mean yeah. But I'm not from Montana so my opinion doesn't really count, in this case. Montana seems to think that was not disqualifying.

You know, the way the DNC didn't think felonious mishandling of classified information, perjury, enabling a serial rapist, and an active FBI investigation (and sprinkle in a few political murders), WHILE losing the popular vote in the primary, weren't disqualifying for Clinton's presidential run. That's their call and I respect it, kinda I guess.

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

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It is entirely deplorable, I agree. People are welcome to their opinions about the quality of coverage, but an attack on a reporter ought be an immediately disqualifying incident. The majority of the American people don't trust politicians either, but that is no excuse for attacking someone who is doing a job essential to the function of a democratic society.

@Penny

Tell that to Kathy Griffin. (google it)

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

Voting someone who assaults journalists is also contemptible.

@Penny

You might even call it deplorable.

What the incident says to me is that the Guardian -- I misspoke, it was not a CNN reporter but a Guardian reporter -- is not particularly popular in Montana. We can attribute that to whatever you like, but at some point the journalists whose job it is to inform the people have to start asking themselves why nobody respects them anymore. I don't think it has anything to do with hating the gays. The news today is naked punditry -- investigative, expository coverage is left to the 400-pound hackers lurking 4chan.

And we're suing them, because they're getting in the way of the punditry.

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

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Actually no, what do you mean?

@Penny

You've surely heard of the Republican control over the house, senate, and Presidency. That's the main legislative bodies in the nation, plus the executive branch; Trump also gets to select judges for the SCOTUS (and is doing a splendid job of it, I might add) -- meaning Democrats are basically entirely powerless on the national level. It's a real rout.

But it gets worse, because as poorly as they did in the national elections, they've done even worse in state and local elections. It's the biggest defeat in a LOOOOOOOOOONG time. And it goes on -- special elections have been cropping up here and there for various reasons, and the GOP is winning all of those too (notably, the recent Montana election during which the republican nominee physically fought with a CNN reporter just a day or two before the vote -- and in the next 24 hours raised over $100k in support).

Basically, the democrats are losing on all fronts. So the joke is, if they want to pass something, they should try as hard as they possibly can to vote AGAINST it, and the GOP will take the bait and vote in favor purely out of spite.