mdk

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Yeah I could never imagine a film doing the opposite.

@Dynamo Frokane

Question: if notorious white male, M. Night Shayamalan, casts an Indian actor for an originally Japanese character, is that........ I'm trying to think of a parallel for "white washing" that don't sound pejorative, but I can't do it. But.... yeah.

MY LARGER POINT BEING THOUGH, WHO EFFING CARES?

A movie adaptation is not meant to be a line-for-line reproduction of the source material, or what was the goddamn point of a movie adaptation? You, yes, you, go be a director and cast whoever you want for whatever you want. If you make a good movie I'll pay you money. Deal?

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@mdkHonestly Idras Elba being made into Roland was the dumbest thing. He's literally modeled after Clint Eastwood, and they went with Idras Elba because he was black. That's the most base example of compromising media.

@POOHEAD189

Have you considered that maybe they went with Idris Elba because he was the best actor?

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@IceHeart@mdk@POOHEAD189 also for the sake of consistency, I'm guessing you all have the same issue with whitewashing characters in movies too?

@Dynamo Frokane

Haven't seen it yet. Haven't even read much about it -- trying to preserve some movie innocence -- so this is more of an in-general response. I'm not bothered by racial-bending casting choices. Like I had zero interest in the Dark Tower movie until I found out Idris Elba was starring -- but that pisses off my (super liberal) coworker because "HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE WHITE." I don't care. I don't care at all.

@mdk

Most of these were terrible movies because they were terrible movies and it has nothing to do with whitewashing. To reiterate: I care exactly 0% about the race of an actor.

EDIT: GiTS note. People got so wound up about "MAJOR" being some white chick that they didn't even seem to notice Batou was turned human. See THAT'S what bothered me most about the movie -- Batou's character was totally fucky.

DOUBLE EDIT: y'know what though, they also made the villains in GiTS white. Funny. I never heard a single complaint from anybody about whitewashing the BAD guys. Gosh I wonder if there's a double-standard in play.

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@iceheart

Haven't seen it yet. Haven't even read much about it -- trying to preserve some movie innocence -- so this is more of an in-general response. I'm not bothered by racial-bending casting choices. Like I had zero interest in the Dark Tower movie until I found out Idris Elba was starring -- but that pisses off my (super liberal) coworker because "HE'S SUPPOSED TO BE WHITE." I don't care. I don't care at all.

But.

I definitely am concerned that it's becoming, like..... essential. The BBC reserves like three whole paragraphs of every movie review to grade the film's diversity record. You get people vomiting on Twitter about how Dunkirk is "too white." And you get your monthly "This superhero should be __________." Since Disney owns Marvel studios it's gonna keep going forever..... I feel like people are so passionately missing the goddamn point that they're furious at anyone who doesn't miss it with them. But, Disney owns it, so the virtue signalling will continue until forever.

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@penny

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<Snipped quote by mdk>
Once again, I think this is true except for the economy in general. Yes, as you say it is an oversimplification but you can't go down to every detail, for now that's just impossible. So, once again I reiterate the [all but factual] theory that economic right and left become extremely similar at the extremes.

@Andreyich

If you're looking only at economics, then left and right are irrelevant standards by which to measure. Maybe I'm not understanding the question.

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clears throat autistically
since no legitimate bantz have been happening as of late I'm going to bring up another topic

the horseshoe theory, and it's validity

Now, I think economically it is very true; both sides on the extremes want abolishment of government, and knowing human nature ancom and ancap will end up more or less identical.

However socially, the right and left only get further and further

what do you think reader?

@Andreyich

Meh.

Meh. There's some truth to it, but mostly based on ignorance. Horseshoe is an illusion caused by general ignorance. Yes, people appear similar despite the "spectrum" or whatever, but actually their views are fundamentally different. The four-way axis is a lot more accurate. A six-way axis would be more accurate than that, and a 5-d hypersphere would be more accurate than that. Simplifying the utter complexity of ALL POLITICAL THOUGHT into A vs B is great classroom fodder, but it's bullshit.

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Roads are sexism, folks.

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@ no one in particular, just amused me

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Did someone say memes?

*snip*

the Germans are at it again, destroying civilization and all.

@Andreyich