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Yes, Archer was hurt by the miasma. No, it isn't seriously enough to impair posting. He's on the thing's spine. Kinda safe.

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Despite the dragon's violent, area-wrecking objections to being attacked by everyone and everything, Archer retained his position atop its back. It was doubtlessly a perilous place to perch; increasingly explosive ranged attacks were being tossed at his 'mount' and the miasma it was spewing everywhere would have started to do some notable damage if not for his resilience and choice of attire. Ranma's attack, particularly, required jumping up and out of the blast zone--only to land once more atop the dragon's back, right as it decided to commit a suicidal attack.

Clinging on was rather difficult, but with the opportunity it presented, he could hardly afford to let go: with his arms wrapped around the reptile's neck, the short length of his blades came in handy. If it had still been struggling and trying to fight off the enemies assembled, such a good opportunity would have never presented itself. In its current state, Archer had a clear shot at cutting its neck open--and whilst the dragon spiralled and dived, he was busy trying to tear its throat out.

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Kaga said
I have a couple questions/concerns:1) What do you mean by "Stand"?2) I feel like the very idea of making characters lose their special abilities would be tough to carry out, just because I suppose it sort of depends on what counts as a "special ability". Like, for example, Vash is a superb gunman - would that skill count as one of the abilities lost? And if so, to what extent would it be lost? Would his skill only drop down to, I dunno... superhuman levels? Or would he lose completely lose all finesse with his gunmanship?

A Stand is a thing from Jojo's. From what I remember, it's basically an invisible-to-non-stand-users quasi-magical shadow with supernatural abilities. The most famous is The World. It stops time. And punches.

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Still not convinced that this idea would be the slightest bit amusing. For no reason other than 'so the challenge works', we have characters losing their abilities, only to regain them in a roundabout way that means they're still largely powerless. So what does this achieve, exactly, that leaving the characters with their powers with the same obstacles wouldn't?

On top of that, I think Kane is the only guy buff enough to be a Jojo's character.7

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From an IC perspective, what you're proposing is essentially having both my characters killed, then rolling with it anyway. All of Archer's powers above basic reinforcement stem from one thing: his very soul. Everything he can do is an expression of what he is. But you're proposing that this be entirely lost to facilitate a single idea, thus requiring an explanation for how a character's very identity just gets conveniently lost.

Suwako (who shall be appearing after this challenge), on the other hand, is entirely composed of faith. There is nothing supernatural about her; she's the result of faith directed in a general geographical region. To remove the supernatural from this is just to remove the character entirely.

I think you'd also KO Sorin, amusingly.

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Well, Archer and Suwako's existence both fall into the 'this does not make sense' category if stripped of supernatural stuff.

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I don't find it fun to have to explain why a character's suddenly lost an integral part of themselves and to have to use a powerset with which I am utterly unfamiliar. For instance, my familiarity with Jojo's does not extend beyond Dio.

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Dead Cruiser said
This is my basic idea: strip each character of their supernatural/special abilities, and then rework the abilities into a . The finer details can be worked out from there.

That is a stupid idea and I hope we never have to suffer through such an atrocious 'challenge'.

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Dead Cruiser said
All of them apply. There's a rather wide range of themes that apply

And most of them are more appropriate to Archer than Death is. :P

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Dead Cruiser said
I'll reiterate that the Tower symbolises chaos, catastrophe, failure, and the end of a journey.

You've changed the meanings you're using for the Tower. Chaos, catastrophe, failure--still describing Archer's life, here. And death.

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Dead Cruiser said
I was thinking in terms of his metamorphosis from Shirou into EMIYA, and the cyclical nature of the Holy Grail War.I really don't understand how the Tower relates to him.

Because a Counter Guardian's purpose is to kill and destroy, no matter how many it is and regardless of the devastation, so that humanity survives. Ironic demise? The whole reason he's so bitter is that always wanting to save people has made him an indescriminate murderer beyond comparison. Plus there's the whole 'try and kill myself in the past to break this mess' goal.

The Magician equally seems to apply to post-Fate and post-UBW Shirou, especially when you look at all its meanings.