shylarah

TTL: The Final Hazard OOC

Well, I"m not talking in a warmup sense. I'm talking in a don't-lose-lives-and-have-to-drop-out sense. I mean, I didn't even come across TTL until something like six or eight labors in, and while I have a vested interest in participation, the fact that my chars can only die twice is a severe limitation, as it would be for anyone who did not have the chance to participate. I realize this is part of the point. That doesn't mean I"m not going to try to maximize potential for myself and others.

...Or, perhaps, we could request you run one of these with slightly more generous terms -- a "repeat until someone wins" would be good. No trophies, but the idea is the same. ^.^

...Is there a limit to characters? As I have no idea what they'll be facing, I don't know who would work well, nor who would fit the setting properly. A fantasy character in a hard scifi setting, for example, tends to be an issue. ...And the reverse can also be an issue, and result in a mental breakdown, if one remains true to the character.

As for characters given to me...the way I view characters is...a bit fuzzy. So I have multiples of the same character, and those /are/ the same character. And then I have /my/ version of a character someone else created, which I was given permission to adopt, and if I made any changes of significance I would credit the original's person, but I would not consider it to be the same character in the way that I would call two manifestations of my little Seer girl the same character. In a sense, every time a base is used, it's a new character. In others, one may gather the various manifestations of every character I've ever played and group them into sets that are more or less the same character, even if they're not truly identical. Given that with characters that hold their origins with the ideas of others I generally start using them to support characters who originate with me, or have been turned into my characters, and that means that even when I change them they generally maintain a number of the same relationships. Where I would rename a character originating with me because of significant divergence from the previous concept, I don't do that as often when the original idea obtained for the supporting/adopted character once they take on a life of their own. After that, divergences gain new names as most of my characters do, but the first change does not usually do so. There is a clear line dividing the instances of a character made by someone else that they use, and any instance where I use them, and that line is actually a bigger division than exists between many of my own characters that I consider separate.

...So the short answer to this is that I don't think my idea of which characters are completely mine is the same as which ones are the same as a character someone else uses. This is probably not relevant in the end, but I do enjoy discussing the concept. ^.^;;

The Twelve Labours: General Discussion

...Actually, making it the afterlife is quite clever, and provided the character stopped being able to function in that setting, I wouldn't consider that trite at all. Be that through a more thorough death, a cessation of existence, or something else...*thoughtful*

TTL: The Final Hazard OOC

@Terminal are we allowed to team up with multiple people giving lives to one character? To team up IC or OOC? and other potentially questionable interpretations of the rules, such as deliberately making a round unwinnable for future round benefits?

What is your opinion on toons? In general, are you going by the potential for abuse, or just by the actual implemented abuse of strong powers, in terms of how difficult and warped things get? How is character death defined and determined?

TTL: The Final Hazard OOC

@Terminal ...I'm not entirely sure what this is going to mean, but alright. I certainly wish to join and see what happens.

By the way, is it fair to try one round with an unwinable scenario, so as to get information for later rounds without losing lives?

The Twelve Labours: General Discussion

@Terminal for the new round of TTL -- not the Final Hazard, but the First Labor -- I wished clarification of a point. How exactly do you determine what is trite? Usually that means overused. I do recall that you didn't like how I handled the matter of a character beating me, but I wouldn't think a character manifesting their own will and gaining the ability to function as a writer's block because of that will to be something often used, even if the idea of a character disagreeing with the author has been used. *tilt head* Will triteness disqualify an entry entirely? Because I'm not sure how stale an idea I've got , since invulnerable doesn't preclude self-destructing, nor does it rule out the idea of very specific weaknesses, given that many characters are presented as invulnerable with one or two glaring flaws. Take Superman. Or, for a more suitable example given the way you present these Labors, how about Achilles? =P

TTL: The Final Hazard OOC

Oh! Right. Since a character's believability and their suitability for the setting and so forth are dependent upon the setting itself, are we submitting characters before or after the reveal of the setting?

When you say we must use our own characters, ones we created, I wish to make sure I understand the intent here. I have characters I've created that other people played and then returned to me. I have ones that I didn't technically conceptualize, but which I turned from concept to character, and which are entirely mine. I have characters that I was given permission to adopt for use from others, and ones I was given and then reworked a great deal (these I'm guessing are out). I also have characters that are entirely mine but were designed for use in a fandom, or in a world that was not entirely original. Which of these are and are not permitted.

Additionally, given that we have 48 hours to reply, and that at times one person may be dependent upon another person's post before they may post themselves, and that will cut down the time from the full 48 to potentially far less, how do you plan to handle this so as to be fair to all participants? I have no problem with the 48 hour limit, but I do wish to have a full 48 or at least very close to post, and not merely a couple (and I've had this happen to me in other places for assorted reasons).

TTL: The Final Hazard OOC

@Terminal I'm in. I have one win, so two lives, though I'll gladly accept donations.

ANYHOW~! I actually have...a rather interesting idea. First off, everyone that has won labors but doesn't want to participate should choose /someone/ participating to give their lives to. Perhaps multiple people, so as to avoid the penalty for transferring multiple lives. Then they should enter the first iteration with the specific goal of dying, so the rest of the lives belong to their recipients. <3

The next part of this is that, perhaps, we who wish to play should team up. I see nothing in the rules that disallows working together to overcome this challenge. If people team up and write one character together, theoretically that would allow more lives (from all players on the team!) It'd also mean that there's more minds working together. To further that idea, I believe we should make characters who will assist each other, or at least end up doing so if not starting that way initially. While perhaps meeting the posting deadline with multiple writers is difficult, teams could nominate one "writer" and the rest as contributors/brainpower. <3 I encourage people to work together. It's us against Mr. Termite the DM, it seems. <3 Should be fun~

However, it seems more participants is better in terms of health of the thread, so it's a balance, I guess. I highly encourage people to have their posts proofread by others -- and perhaps we could set up a gdoc for this purpose -- so as to avoid silly mistakes.

I also wish to ask if there are considerations made for those of us who are typing on something where proofing and editing are more difficult, and where autocorrect is a serious issue. I know that for me personally, my Kindle makes an accurate, neat, and grammatical post a nigh-unreachable dream, and that while I can make a reasonable effort to be comprehensible, thorough editing is pretty much impossible. Accurate typing is difficult, and the time required to fix the errors generated by use of an onscreen keyboard makes writing nightmarish. Also my Kindle seems to have issues and can think it has received input when in fact it has not. Indeed, sometimes it enjoys closing tabs all on its own. *sigh*

You mention that minor errors might be useful to adjust your manner of writing. I find this interesting. I also wonder if consideration will be given for narrative style and the voice of the character whose perspective is being used. I do hope it will. Additionally, I wonder how strict you are going to be in terms of what constitutes an error. For example: there are stylistic rules that different people handle with varying degrees of attentiveness, like placement of certain commas (the most obvious example, of course, is the Oxford comma, but there are other instances where one might or might not use a comma and it's a matter of how one wishes the sentence to flow), the use of a conjunction to start a sentence or a preposition to end it, and how one deals with pronouns for a single entity of indeterminate gender. If there are to be consequences that pertain to what in the end is a personal choice even if perhaps not technically correct (and there are debates over what are claimed to be the "official" rules for these and other issues), I would like to know. More serious transgressions, such as the egregiously erroneous use of "like" in places where it might be put conversationally but not in formal writing, or deliberate technical violations done for effect, are also a concern.

And...what the heck, Term. You know, I'm sure, that you've got *counts* ten nested posts there, right? And that all of them are not the same, though I only noticed the difference between the first and the rest.

shy plays the grammar game

On a related note:
>arbadacarba (**abracadabra)
>opportunities...will avail themselves to you (One avails oneself of something. So one might avail oneself of an opportunity, but the opportunity is revealed, not availed. Perhaps it is available? There's a few ways to correct this.)
WTF Terminal, we've not even started yet; there's been no errors for you to respond to. =P

All in all this looks very interesting. I'm debating who I wanna use. Someone clever, and probably brave...but not very powerful. But in the end, a character being broken is determined entirely by how they are played. So a literal god might not be broken if played well, and an ordinary Walmart cashier might be broken if played poorly. Is this judged by abilities or by how the character is played and the intent of the writer? I'm hoping the latter. ^.^

Think I covered everything. For now, at least. WOO!

The Westminster League Of Extraordinary Individuals (WWII Superhero Spy RP)

@MegaOscarPwn *amused*

Adelon: Steeling the Faith [Open!]

Amuné sobbed into the Muran's chest. She'd tried hard not to think of what might have happened, but sometimes her worry became overwhelming, and with Cecil lying broken and too-still, it was one of those times. Ethan managed to comfort her, and at last the girl subsided into whimpers and sniffles. "You're sure? Cecil's just sick, he's not gone? You're sure he'll come back and wake up again? And my dreams are just bad dreams? You'll stay until Mommy and Daddy can take me home? Everyone will be okay? ...Promise?" She gulped a deep breath and wiped her eyes, nodding. "Okay. Okay, I'll do my best. I'll be brave like Daddy said. I can do that. I can." She took another shaky deep breath, and gave Ethan a brief but very tight hug. "I'm sorry. I'm trying. It's hard -- but I'll try harder. I'll be brave."

Ethan's comment about her parents scolding her for skipping a meal brought an unsteady and sheepish smile. "Y-yeah, okay. We can do that. A healer to check on Wyth, and then dinner." Amuné slid off the bed and took his hand in hers, rubbing her reddened eyes with the other. "I...I guess maybe I am hungry after all...." Sticking close to his side and with Wyth nearby on the other, the child followed out of the room.

The Westminster League Of Extraordinary Individuals (WWII Superhero Spy RP)

*rolls around impatiently* I would post again, but it's only been one post since my last....