The 42nd Gecko

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@Mega Birb Yeah, and when someone says "I think I want to to put, lets say, a wall of swords with infinite power between me and that brave bird" Eve goes "Well darn."

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@KoL Looking at the image, I was figuring that the central part of it was a tower that most everyone was in. Artoria coming down from the top, with Tartys, Miyu, Ruxen, still being on the upper side of it due to having entered from the air or explicitly being on the upper level.

I really felt like Tartys, Miyu, and Ruxen wouldn't have to deal with the plasma because Artoria'd prevent it from getting that high.

It's not like I'm arguing that because I want to make Artoria win. Every one of those people I'd be helping would be an Angel.

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@KoL My problem there is not that I didn't blow up the factory. It's that you specified everyone else would have to block the plasma attack on their own. That means Artoria, with ALL her power behind blocking Eos' attack, is still only blocking like, 10% of it. In my head I had imagined maybe blocking the half of it headed upwards, and of course, the stuff headed downwards would still land. And Eos isn't even focusing on that, she's creating clones, still buffing allies, launching lasers, and so on. In order for this to be the case, Eos would need to be something on the level of twenty to fifty times stronger, depending on how you roll the math.

In other words, I don't feel so much Artoria is fighting Eos, as Artoria is a naughty dog gnawing at the furniture while Eos occasionally grabs a spray bottle and spritzes it at her while continuing to read her newspaper.

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@Mega Birb
Eve may be fast... But she's got no attack powers that hurt the enemy without hurting her (As building up momentum prior to striking and colliding is her only real attack method), and her lance is woefully underwhelming against the power levels set by other weapons. If you gave her a decent weapon she might move up to solid mid tier as a duelist, but she's really not got a versatile or OP enough powerset. Also, calling her the fastest is pretty silly compared to the ludicrous speed-sets some of the other characters have.

@Lucius Cypher Back on the Subject of Grafdakka, I like to rate characters on three metrics:
Duelist: How good the character is in a one v one or other small fight. A lot of this ranking is based on the character's dodge, accuracy, the versatility of their powerset's attack type moves, and things like that.
Power: What's the power level of the fighter? Can they break through Zeruel's shield, or Torag's defenses, or other "You must be this high a power level to get to fight me" things.
Battlefield: What's their ability to affect the fight as a whole? Do they dominate the battlefield when they enter?

For example,
Victoire would be:
Deulist: Low-Mid, she's got versatility, and tricks up her sleeve, but there always seems to be cast times and preparations needed, and her physical capabilities are low enough that she's got a glass jaw.
Power: Mid, she's not particularly high raw power or low raw power.
Battlefield: Borderline Faction-Leader, between her long range communication, portals, and most importantly, demon flowers, she tends to win the battle without ever winning any fights within the battle.

Grafdakka would be:
Duelist: Low-Mid, if it weren't for your ability to easily sacrifice parts of yourself to trade blows advantageously, and your occasional clever "taking you with me but I've got higher durability" moves, you'd be lower than Miyu on this list. You're just such a big and unmaneuverable target when on open ground or in the air, and none of your ranged weapons are flexible or powerful enough to give you any real options other than "CHAARGE! PLEASE STAND STILL AND TAKE IT!".
Power: Borderline Faction-Leader, Zeruel's withstanding your chainsaw was dumb. You've sacrificed every other category for this one thing, and you should be the best at it.
Battlefield: Low-Mid. Used to be mid tier when you still had a nuke, as those allowed you to really make a difference occasionally. You really only have the ability to seek out and destroy targets, but with how bad Grafdakka is at a duel, you really have to hope the enemy doesn't have a dodge stat. If you had fixed emplacements to destroy or "destroy this shield to allow us access", you'd have some ways to shine, but as it is, it's a wonder you're doing as well as you are well.

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@Lucius Cypher I think that's bias on the case of Team Angel, and the fact that Team Demon practically got an entire new codex with op new models save for their old strongest PC fighter.

Let's examine Team Angel this fight:
Tartys: Solid mid tier, but she's not exactly overpowered. In a one on one vs someone like Shizuka, she'd probably be at a severe disadvantage.
Eve: Maybe mid tier. I'm thinking she's the border between low and mid tier. She's no Miyu, because she's at least got speed, but her power set weaknesses really reflects that she's meant to be a character building character to interact with Syphax.
Miyu: HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Torag: Yeah, didn't even get played, and would have been one shot by Grafdakka.
Ciel: GM.
Ananta: Former GM, above average, but Grafdakka does have the call of whether or not to take Ananta out of the fight, even if it'll cost him to do so.

Let's examine Team Demon this fight:
Olds-
Fran: Generally a mid tier demon, probably good to fight another mid tier character like Tartys.
Henry: The unquestionably strongest original demon PC. Even if his win/loss wasn't that great, he was unquestionably a force in every battle he went into, back when the general power level was lower. Unfortunately, that made him a target for people like Juno who could make an absolute mockery of a PC level threat.
News-
Mephila: Pretty rough and tumble high class demon, which is why he's able to stand fight against someone on Shizuka's class for awhile. But he's not exactly winning that fight.
Artoria: Super fucking broken compared to the other PCs, but still not enough to meaningfully affect the battlefield. Putting all her power behind an attack, with type advantage and the supposedly stolen powers of a Faction Leader, is enough to block about a tenth of an attack of a faction leader who is also doing like five other things in the same turn across the entire battlefield.
Greg: Didn't do anything.

So, that leaves you with Team Angel having: A mid tier, a sorta mid tier, two weaksauces, and gm/psuedo-gm character that's strong but not that bad. I mean, Ananta even acknowledge the strength of the chainsaws reality altering power being hard to block for once.

As for Team Demon: Yeah, they've got some massive punch this time, but Artoria trying to fill in for a faction leader tier threat on their team (seeing the others have Ciel and Eos) is kinda laughable.

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@KoL To be fair, they are almost all working as a team to try and beat ciel to save the factory from being blown down.

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@Banana People have tried doing healing before. It rarely comes up, because if you get beat, your opponent rarely leaves you alive. It occasionally comes up when you win but take some damage while doing so.

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@TheWindel Jubilation and glee.

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@KoL Hey, I posted it here because I wasn't sure about scale. Getting feedback is exactly why I posted it early. Thank you for the prompt feedback.

I'll just tone down all the superlative language and take whatever I can get.

That said, you said you made an attack that said it was with all the power of a supernova, and it got mostly shrugged off. So I could probably use what I had posted, and then the factory just shrugs it off.

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@KoL I do feel like I have to turn every move Eos makes against her, use physics, and deny Eos straight contests of power, or challenging Eos would be really really dumb. In other words, Artoria needs to fight smarter than Eos if she's gonna want a ghost of a chance. Or basically, do what I had intended to do with Miyu, but with a Faction Leader+Knight+General+Starting power level to even get to start trying to do clever stuff.

That said, mostly I just wanted to see what this would be on a huge scale.