The Grey Dust

The Blood Compact

<Snipped quote by The Grey Dust> Being old does not justify nuke-proofing, it's age is irrelevant. The fact that I'm not actually throwing a nuke at you is irrelevant to the fact that you just stated a nuke would be insufficient to destroy camelot. There is no level of firepower above 'nuclear warfare'. There is nothing higher than that. So you're basically stating that Camelot is immune to any damage inflicted by anything, ever, until we develop Antimatter Explosives. Your character's one supposed weakness is that he can be killed during the day, but if he sleeps in a magical impregnable fortress immune to any and all damage surrounded by a vast network of spies and soldiers in a country filled with vampires, that isn't really a weakness.

@thewizardguy

Nuclear warfare is your limit of firepower? How strange. I thought you'd at least go for something more fun as molecular destabilization. Camelot has withstood the 1500 some odd years. Weathering through the ages. It is also hidden underground as the centuries piled up upon it. It is an immortal kingdom lost to the ages of time. But I'm sure you have no concept of eternity and the significance of protecting something to withstand the ages. Merlin however foresaw this and casted a ward over it to both conceal it from scrying and prevent its destruction until the King returns from Avalon to reclaim his throne. But if you cannot accept this line of logic, of preserving something against decay, then you could also argue Bedivere believes Merlin has done this whether or not it applies. Either way, I.C. there is no suggestion to Bedivere that the nukes would work. But of course if we metagame everything... The fortress is not impregnable. There are no other vampires there due to the amount of Judeo-Christian symbolism found in Camelot. And no humans walk the halls as guards either as the only ones who Bedivere would allow to do so are the other knights of Camelot. There are no modern turrets or surveillance. The only modification is a phone landline running from the ceiling with a direct line to Parliament. Although the darkness of the underground can be banished away by a flashlight. Thus you can walk into it. Most likely falling into it on accident. Not knowing where you end up but falling into the dark abyss until you hit water. To then be unable to walk back up and must wander the halls until another exit is found. A story I'd like to throw in would be of how an English solider accidentally came upon Camelot. While exploring the halls, he found Bedivere in his Red Dragon form, guarding over his treasures. But either way, Camelot's only defense is the last knight and Merlin's meddling. Dare I ask why you are so critical of some elements by the way? You always seem to expect elements of reality when it is convenient for you. Yet, disregard it with little more than a brush off when we raise question. For example, you have still to explain the full extent of Gabriel's powers, nor any form of perceived weaknesses. Yet, you constantly bash on us regarding our "OP"-ness. Furthermore, you have place the Purge in Kilopoint in a large scale assault as if they were ready to do battle without any form of reverse knowledge from either side. Which is to say you managed to move a force of Purge member with tanks and all, to a relatively small base in kilopoint knowing vampires are going to strike it without the vampires noticing or Kilopoint putting out a high alert for potential enemy movements. You have made Kami-no-Kage with some special life-extending formula (I'll disregard the batteries for now until you develop this) and for some odd reason he knows that Bedivere arrived in the States even though Bedivere could be anywhere with his water merge abilities and decides to hunt him down. You have created technology which is supposedly to fight vampires, yet unless the Purge has extreme lobbying, they are producing weapons of war which world governments ought to be more concerned about. The attack on kilopoint and attempted bombing of should have landed the Purge in some really bad press. Yet the world government has allowed the organization to exist without any intervention or audit. SOLIDER I take it is the official group because of the regulation it has. You seem to "force" the issue at hand into your design with disregard to the contribution of others to the lore and story. Just take the interaction with Mathew Stone. You would believe that Mathew would get audience with the Collector just because he called? Just because sudden interest overtook him? If someone like Bill Gates decided to call up the Queen of Brittan and ask if her entire country wanted to conduct business with Microsoft such that no Mac's would be allowed in Brittan, do you think they would actually meet face to face? Or would Bill rather send a proxy to meet the Queen's people and discuss business matters? It would be illogical for actual business people who have never met each other to sit in chat about undisclosed business with Mathew did not specify. As for securing nuclear weapons, if men like Mathew Stone have nukes, one would expect the UK (hence by extension Bedivere) also has nuclear weaponry (which ironically would be weapons of war he would collect for display purposes in self-satisfaction but he'd never use them because he prefers the way of the sword). So then, should we escalate once more? Or will you begin to see that it is not just your story here but a joint venture requiring yourself to be respectful of the design of others and not just justify your own when they are clearly equally shady though no one bothers to point them out because they just go along with it and take it for face value in the interest of not controlling things which are beyond their domain.

The Blood Compact

It depends on where you are at. It's daytime in England. Which would be early morning, before noonish probably. But time is fluid depending on where and when you are.

The Blood Compact

He doesn't have a nuke! Of course he doesn't have a nuke! He's bluffing so much it's practically dribbling from his mouth. Mathew has a vast emporium of trade relationships, and has amassed vast quantities of wealth. If it can be bought, he can buy it. However, nukes cannot be bought. The fact that it's mythical doesn't change anything. What's your point here?

@thewizardguy

Then I don't see your problem. But Camelot is protected through the 1500 years of it's existence. The fact that it still stands means something. Despite it being buried underneath the centuries.

The Blood Compact

In that case, feel free to kill off Matt. However, as you did not list Nuke-proof shield around Camelot in your CS, and it has not been approved by any GM, Camelot is not Nuke-proof.

@thewizardguy

As a counter. you did not list Nukes as weapons under Mathew's arsenal. And it has not been approved by any gm. Camelot is a mythical castle. It should not even exist.

The Blood Compact

Actually given the fact that the Launch of missiles at London would pretty much cause M.A.D... Mathew's probably going to reduce the human world to ashes. Which is fine by Bedivere's standards. Vampire will rebuild society upon the ashes. Camelot is protected by Merlin's wards and foresight. Hence he wouldn't really care if the UK gets forced into a world conflict ending in the nuclear apocalypse. The man after all, is a relic of times past, a sword in the days of warheads. Do you seriously think he has any care for what happens to the world should Mathew decide to attempt and destroy the UK? Nope. In fact, it's all the more excuse he needs to attack France.

The Blood Compact

Nope, Dresden died off-screen.

@thewizardguy

Off-screen killings. The bane of demoted main characters everywhere.

The Blood Compact

The Earl Grey. Early in the morning. "Why I Ne-" The old man was silenced with a wave of a hand from his vampire associate. "Good question Mathew Stone Esquire." The fanged one spoke to Mathew directly now. "Ask yourself, who is the Collector?" Proxies and patsies, this was how the world operated. Stone should know this, unless he had really been so egotistic to believe Bedivere would make an appearance here in London this early in the morning. Far from it, any real business would be conducted in Wales anyways. Coming to London was the first mistake, or perhaps the first step. What would come of this meeting? Certainly a death. It was planned after all. Staged even, and all the men involved actors for the dark lord. "Did you expect Sire to be present? No, you are still far too human for him despite your accomplishments. In the long game, a knight is worth far less on the board as the pieces clear up, one by one. And you shall be left with naught but an empire of ash and sand for all you have done as on the table and at it. But I am not here to teach you lessons in humility. I come bearing you not one, but two offers from the Collector himself." Let those words sink in, as the vampire takes a jab at Mathew's mortality. "He proposes the following terms: One, for Mathew Stone esquire to be offered the dark gift of night if they are to ever meet such that then they could truly be counted as equals. Two, for Mathew Stone esquire to become a suitable replacement for the current incarnation of the Collector." With those words, the Old Man's eyes widened, today may be the day he died. It was signed in the contract, that as he inherited from the last collector, he too would forfeit his life when the terms came to an end as the vampire produced a briefcase and from it a parcel of ancient papers signed by the last dozen collectors. "A generous offer do you not think so Mister Stone? Had I not been a vampire myself, I would accept both in your stead. But the Sire was very clear the offer extended to you, and you only. I would strongly suggest accepting it." For your life depended upon it. Making enemies is hardly a good thing to do in today's modern world. All a part of Bedivere's schemes of course. Mathew Stone as the collector would draw attention from him for some time, and allow him to plan his vampire assault on France.

The Blood Compact

Sorry to say but I won't be able to post until tommorrow or later tonight. My electricity is out for some reason, hoping it gets fixed soon. Posting this and then getting off to conserver battery life.

@Shikaru

We prefer to curse the darkness... OR do we?

The Blood Compact

<Snipped quote by Shikaru> *pokes* You're up good sir.

@Wraithblade6

Poke him with a pointed stick. Or a bunch of raspberries. Whichever you believe would be more effective. My bet is on the raspberries as few people know defense against fresh fruits.

The Blood Compact

Sorry for lack of posts, had a session of tabletop today >.>

@thewizardguy

May the dice forever roll in your favour.