The Harbinger of Ferocity

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

<Snipped quote by Penny>

*In Harbinger Voice*

This is baseless slander, I've seen no evidence this person is a racist, and even if they were, that word means nothing anymore because of the media.

@Dynamo Frokane

When you have nothing clever or original to say, attempt to undermine your opposition by being exaggerated and unrealistic in mocking parody of them.

How cute, do let me know when you mature and have an actual point to make. Until then I suppose I will be left both wanting and waiting for better. On a related note, wonderful failure to portray me once more. If you wanted to be accurate you would have been wise to note that the media is hardly a reliable source and that they are masters of spin, not like there are ways to validate people's track records or anything that would suggest their intentions or capabilities, or that there are open agendas out against anyone who speaks against the media's reporting, or there too are too many lazy, content souls quick to label anything they dislike "racist" or "fascist".

Then again, accuracy isn't your interest in this - being "funny" is.

Looking For Players and their Input on a 5e DnD Campaign

I agree they would be familiar, @Claw2k11. Given nobility and royalty would generally be leading the army itself, it would not be a surprise for the two to recognize one another, even if they never interacted directly. The sort of thing where both parties have seen and know the other, but not in person.

Lord Beaduric would be fairly notable as well, some old knight who never saw much of the cbat itself outside of dealing with the opposing knighthood, even then not much of a hero himself. A red dragon among the army? Pretty easily recalled, especially if he was being provided with orders.

Post a random fact about yourself.

I am surrounded by prehistoric relics of the past in my own private collection. Sadly, there are too few.

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Thus far what I have is an aging baron by the name of Lord Andhere Beaduric, someone who has not spent the majority of their life adventuring, but in their coming twilight years have taken up sword and shield. A knightly aristocratic fellow, Lord Andhere Beaduric is not a typical man of his station, having renounced a majority of his influence and political station among his peers and has sought to make a mark and legacy on the world going forward. Given he is a human and a baron, so a militant noble, who is the most likely to know him? I imagine him a land owner around Hoxne, Hammerway, and Ironchurch. He's distinct in that while bald and graying, with extremely close kept hair, he is surprisingly lively for an old fellow.

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

I disagree with just about everything​ the modern Left-wing has to say or their vision of the United States, especially the fringe elements of it as the social justice crusade or the democratic socialists, but at the same time I certainly do not hate them. I have a difficult time not hating Nazism or communism, let alone socialism, but I can respect their right to an opinion, even if they are guilty of atrocity and are willing to adhere to that; a bad opinion is still an opinion. Action is where the issue is.

I strongly dislike the spineless "conservatives" who are nothing more than career politicians and more than happy to play face for votes than for their beliefs, rather what beliefs they should have had given who they were elected to represent. Hate them? Absolutely not. Want them out of office so the real candidates can be in? Absolutely.

I dislike the "Alt-Right" memesters who steal from actual Alt-Right sources or subtly push fringe agendas or do outright, even if they only do it "For the lulz." or to be edgy. As far as I am concerned, that is just as potentially damaging as actually associating with them; we have seen the media cannot discern a green frog from a hate symbol as it is. Some might be clever, some funny, but at the end of the day, this is not a game.

Certainly not fond of Islam either, too many moderates turn a blind eye to the radicals, and the radicals I too am hard pressed not to legitimately hate; they are essentially inexcusable, but hatred isn't an answer. The religion itself is not the issue wither, it can be reformed and there are some Muslims who believe in reforming it, just not enough. It isn't "incompatible" with the Western world, but that requires compromise and integration, things a number of them are flat unwilling to do.

No friend of criminals either, no real sympathy or mercy for them as well. But hatred? I try to avoid hatred. Disdain and distaste, even abhorrence in the sense of laothing to contend with them? Acceptable.

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@catchamber

I do not believe it to be a matter of their intelligence so much as defining themselves. They are identitiarians by their own claim and are obsessing over who and what they are; only seems fitting they wish to make a concept outside regular modern politics into "their own" and brand it. Really all they are doing is re-branding their philosophy because of its past connotations, that I think is the most telling thing here. I certainly think they are acting "outside politics", at least modern politics. Historically and verbatim? Absolutely a political ideology, but not one with a horse in the race in this century.

In a way, I can almost see them as a form of communist entity, one utterly devoted to their state and their people. I am legitimately curious where their members lay on the political spectrum by and large, at least their committed, die hard fellows. I imagine they are going to be Right-wing, but considering Generation Identity is a European product? Some oddness might be afoot. Would make for interesting talking points to see where they really hold their faith to outside identitarianism and assuming the Left-wing wasn't actually pushing them away.

Looking For Players and their Input on a 5e DnD Campaign

I would have no issue with starting at 3rd level, characters have quite a few more powers and abilities then and are better defined, a bit more heroic as well. My vote is all for starting there if possible, @Caitimus.

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@catchamber

How many different ways need I phrase the same exact thing? Be honest now. Regardless, I am stating the idea is somewhat valid for how they appear to be using it and in relation to the way people speak about politics. These identitarians are not Left or Right, let alone Authoritarians or Liberals. That is the usual political spectrum. Their concept is devoid of an explicit political attachment. They could, in theory, attack from any political angle they choose, but are not. They want to shape something larger than just how people use the word "politics". As an added note, I am using their understanding of it to represent them as we are talking about them and their operations.

I note it is questionable because the term itself is already tainted by political expectations, hence this conversation at all in the first place. I am sure someone with a political science background, or is simply directly involved in the science of politics, has an official term for it that isn't as vague, ill defined, or nothing as "metapolitics" seems to be, but at the moment we lack that.

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Greetings @Caitimus,

I am certainly interested in your proposal and to answer your questions in order as so requested, I would prefer, in a game, to spend roughly the following amount of time as so:

a) 50% Combat and Conflict
b) 45% Adventuring or Exploration
c) 5% Riddle Solving

As you can tell, I am not so partial to riddles and puzzles, the vast majority of them I have encountered I admit left nothing but a sour taste in my mouth. If you do intend on including them frequently, all I ask is that they do not require something extremely obscure, let alone metagame knowledge. I much prefer the puzzles where one needs find a pattern or equate a philosophical statement with its meaning or purpose.

With regard to specific elements and how they so go? I am very fond of the themes of fighting the undead, a power struggle of church and state, and of course the "zero to hero" as you so put it. The former because it allows use to fight hordes of enemies who are, by and large, unambiguously evil and makes interacting with other characters another flavor; an undead plague is always a great theme to crusade against. A battle of church and state, if done well, can provide a fair amount of decision points for characters and who they really wish to, if at all, ally with and ultimately help legitimize. Rising from the bottom to the pinnacle is a sort of fantasy fulfillment, especially if the characters all share some relation, even if tangential at best.

I tend not to play characters who have any allegiances to deities, but I would be much more curious to see an original pantheon than the default ones crafted by the Dungeon Master. It at least would be new, refreshed content. Granted I haven't seen many stereotypical "Clerics of Pelor" or "Druids of Obad-Hai", but it is sort of a superior experience, I think, to have something different than what is known there, even if I myself decline to use it; I like having the option and not just for me, but for the party.

As far as characters knowing one another goes, I would rather one of two routes; either the party all knows one another from the same region, having at least heard of their names or at minimum seen their face, or even lived in the same town or thorp. While this will not always work out for them all, someone can at least say, "I've seen him before! He cast a few drunken ruffians out of the tavern. He's probably an okay fellow - haven't heard bad about him and he can fight, too." The second option is, is that they were all called together, or worked together, in a previous and far more minor adventure and are now allies.

Of all the classes and races I am considering, I am probably looking to play, at this moment an older human, half-elf, or half-orc paladin who is a noble. Someone sort of declining in their years and has decided they spent too much time aside and far from being involved in their own homeland; a name people might be sort of familiar with, but sort of surprised to hear and see in the flesh, let alone gallivanting across the realm. If we are starting at a lower level, as in 1st, I will probably play the same race and class, but a novice paladin who's on their quest to adhere to their title and status, to make a name for themselves and a cause.

I am entirely fine with all books and supplements, to include Unearthed Arcana, but my recommendation is, whatever the newest version of something is, that is used.

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@catchamber

You are free to disagree as you are, but I would say the term they have invented, rather taken for themselves, is fairly accurate again in the use of language. Generation Identity seems to be not so much a political faction as they wish to be a concept, which is identitarianism. That is my interpretation of their "point" on it, that it is sort of an outside factor flowing into how people speak to or utilize politics. The validity of "metapolitics" is entirely questionable however, the reason I do not see Generation Identity surviving for long without hitching itself to a political faction and people pouring themselves in behind it.