Vilageidiotx

Super Tuesday

Whether it be Trump for the meme value

@Dinh AaronMk

I hope to satan there isn't a significant block of voters who make their decision based on "Meme value." I'll take people voting for Clinton because she's a woman or Trump because he speaks his mind way before I take "Meme value" as a legit reason.

what kind of armor

My nudity repels most.

Super Tuesday

Yeah, I haven't given up entirely. I'm very worried, though, and if Bernie doesn't get the Democratic party's support, well... Again: I really hope he gets some financial backing so he can stay in the race.

@Shorticus

They don't seem to be doing too bad with donations right now. He'd need them in the general... but the Dems will inevitably support themselves if they end up being forced to run Sanders.

We'll see what happens. Things happen slowly in politics, the take away is that Sanders might represent which way the wind is blowing, considering his youth support, and that the millennial generation isn't exactly staring down financial success anytime soon. The brewing discontent can only get worse from here.

And if it doesn't get worse, well, that must mean the situation on the ground is actually improving, and as somebody on the ground I'd love the improvement no matter how it happens.

Super Tuesday

I'll be honest: I consider myself a very liberal individual, and I am still 100% a Bernie Sanders fan... and I will not vote for Hilary under any circumstances. She's got a history of scandals that makes Littlefinger and the Lannisters look like saints. It doesn't help her case that she's really, really inconsistent about her values (the only consistent thing about her is she lies about her consistency), and her chief rallying cry to appeal to folks who are anti-establishment has been "I'M A WOMAN!"

I'm not sure precisely how I'm going to vote yet, but I'm... I actually feel very sad about this turn of events. I knew it was going to happen, but still.

I'm hoping someone with money endorses Bernie, or that enough people donate to keep him in this election even though he's not going to be the Democratic party's choice.

@Shorticus

Shits not over yet. Back at the new year, it seemed apparent he wasn't supposed to get this far, then they suddenly became neck and neck. The biggest danger right now is that the fickle millennial vote will jump ship at the first sign of trouble.

Super Tuesday

I'd probably do it if my German wasn't rustier than a civil war sword found buried under wet mud for a hundred years, and if I wasn't already on an eventual road to failure here.

@Dinh AaronMk

Take a refresher class or two, then jump in and pick up the rest in the process of living there if that is what you really want to do.

Super Tuesday

When it all goes tits up let's bypass Canada and go straight to Europe. Belgium, maybe.

Hell, Germany has a free college program for foreign students, you gotta spreche Deutsche though, but I hear if you talk to a recruiter about it you can get enrolled in German classes too and some are offered in English as well.

@Dinh AaronMk

I've been thinking about something that. Not because of politics, just a general want to change things up for myself.

Super Tuesday

Then again, I've also heard people mentioning voting third party. But that's less of a point to make and more a massive joke, because they actually believe a third party would have a chance and that's just funny.

@Keyguyperson

That's the problem though. A vote isn't a bet on who is going to win. An election isn't supposed to be a cathartic emotional thing like professional sports. Voting isn't a game; it is a civil duty. In theory, everyone is supposed to vote for the person who most closely represent their own views and values. It is supposed to be the jobs of politicians to earn our vote.

But by making it all about voting for the winner, by scaring people into voting for a "Lesser Evil", politically parties have the voters coming to them. They decide what their course of action is going to be, and if voters don't like it, they point at the other guy and say "They're worse". The voters have to do all the bending in that situation.

I am convinced that American politics is only as corrupt as you'd expect for how much money is in it, but that the real problem isn't at all corruption, but that the voters aren't responsible with their voting. The idea of voting "Against" a party by voting for the other, that's a big part of why everything is the way it is.

So yeh, I think that Clinton only really stands for Clinton; that she wouldn't do anything to forward any causes that I am interested in. What I think about the Republicans or their candidate is irrelevant. I vote for what I believe, and that's all I can do to fulfill my civic duty.

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I'm in the same boat on the right. I'm not voting for Trump..... however for literally over a decade I've been waiting for a chance to vote against Hillary, so that might happen. But Cruz is the guy I would've actually voted for.

But yeah. Not a Republican, because they're really not small-government or freedom. I'd go libertarian except their foreign policy blows.

@mdk

Maybe it is just wishful thinking on my part, but I like the anti-establishment vibe in this round of primaries. That effect probably won't last into the general, but the success of Sanders and Trump does suggest people don't have much faith in the established party politic anymore, and that's nice.

Super Tuesday

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I never really wondered if Bernie had a chance or not -- he was never getting it. But what I do wonder is, how many Sanders supporters will remember just how dirty the Clintons are when the general election cycle starts up. I mean you guys dug up more dirt on her than the GOP candidates -- it mattered enough to talk about in the primary, will it stick around come election time? That's the real question.

@mdk

If Sanders don't get it, I vote Green. I planned on that back when Sanders was fifty points behind. I'm a leftist certainly, but I've never considered myself a Democrat.

Precipice of War - We Write Under The Sign Of The Goat

Meanwhile I read Wealth of Nations and take notes.

Legit. I got three pages of notations so far on the intro and chapter one of the division of labor.

@Dinh AaronMk

Heh, I didn't even take notes when I was in school. I just drew shit in the notebook.

But yeh, I actually like the old aristocratic, somewhat snarky way 18th century books are written. The best part of Wealth of Nations is when he disses Scotland or some other poor country.

Also, you'll be surprised how little that book meshes with the Libertarian idea of what it is. The guy supports the idea of labor unions (in 1776 mind you), and thinks adult education is economically damaging.

Precipice of War - We Write Under The Sign Of The Goat

It's a history book. When you get down to it, isn't that really what history books are?

@Byrd Man

I admit I only skimmed it and thought it was supposed to be a regular novel.