[OOC] Mystique- "A techno-magic world"-NMV

[GreivousKhan]

MelonHead said
For a neater post, you can detect on a rudimentary level anything in my satchel, the basic outline of my pistol, some magical residue all around my body, the spider etc, but nothing internal, and when trying to look any further your technology becomes hazy and indistinct.I don't know what sort of technology you have to stop me from detecting you, my character can see magical energy and has excellent normal vision, so you can decide what he can and can't detect off the bat. If you intend to detect me though, you can't escape my notice.

That's what my idea was, and lo and behold it was like it was never there!

And that depends one what you define as magical, though fey she is not magical in nature and is not using any magic at the moment, and with nether permitting the air from two recent deaths, there would be no vocal point settling around her atm to give her away. Once she does start using it though that will be another story.

Though I did wonder if he can discern color in the dark or if it's a form of low-light vision that amplifies light already present.

[MelonHead]

GreivousKhan said
That's what my idea was, and lo and behold it was like it was never there! And that depends one what you define as magical, though fey she is not magical in nature and is not using any magic at the moment, and with nether permitting the air from two recent deaths, there would be no vocal point settling around her atm to give her away. Once she does start using it though that will be another story. Though I did wonder if he can discern color in the dark or if it's a form of low-light vision that amplifies light already present.

He could discern colors in near complete darkness, but essentially the lens eyes amplify light significantly.

As for the magical question, my character is a technomancer, so he can just as easily detect your technology, except perhaps if you're in your ghost realm. So I suppose what I'm really asking is how much the Clockwork Man can detect off the bat about your technology, can it shield itself from a technomancer of his competence?

[Skallagrim]

I would suspect the ghost realming would be difficult.

[GreivousKhan]

MelonHead said
He could discern colors in near complete darkness, but essentially the lens eyes amplify light significantly.As for the magical question, my character is a technomancer, so he can just as easily detect your technology, except perhaps if you're in your ghost realm. So I suppose what I'm really asking is how much the Clockwork Man can detect off the bat about your technology, can it shield itself from a technomancer of his competence?

Well lucky for him, she's not using wraith gate atm. As peer, my own rules, it's use was not immediately possible at the time. She is only optically camouflaged.

[GreivousKhan]

Though come to think of it she is also surrounded by technology... hmm

[MelonHead]

Yeah, my characters power is Technomancy, so he can seize control of opponents technology or learn what it can do, in a process of > basic function/very close proximity effect (which is how he blocks its ability to sense his internals.) > Greater function > Minor control > Complete knowledge > Complete control.

And no, being surrounded by technology isn't really going to be an obstacle to a powerful Technomancer. You wouldn't even expect a hydromancer to have difficulty seperating out one section of water from another, because they need an innate knowledge of the 'element' they manipulate. Technology is very individual and varied, so your own signature would be very visible to him because its so easy to separate.

That's just the fairest way to put what I essentially said was taking control of technology into a tier system, the first tier will be accessed in my first post (where I'll also explain how he's able to block the scanning.) I'm asking what degree my character can sense your tech (or what defenses it has from his Technomancy.)

[GreivousKhan]

MelonHead said
Yeah, my characters power is Technomancy, so he can seize control of opponents technology or learn what it can do, in a process of > basic function/very close proximity effect (which is how he blocks its ability to sense his internals.) > Greater function > Minor control > Complete knowledge > Complete controlThat's just the fairest way to put what I essentially said was taking control of technology into a tier system, the first tier will be accessed in my first post (where I'll also explain how he's able to block the scanning.) I'm asking what degree my character can sense your tech (or what defenses it has from his Technomancy.)

I imagine he can sense it just fine, if/when he can pick it out from the other signals seeing as we are surrounded by Mystan tech, but it is very alien. But I'm not all together sure how you 'sense' tech, since it's not based on a real world equivalent from what I can gather, so honesty I can't answer that question completely. Shenestra for her part is using IR, Magnetic wave imaging, and thermal to name a few.

As for defenses all her gears functions are controlled primarily by a slaved spirit which is pretty much also capable of hacking or building firewalls and is the primary defense against such hostile take over. Which it does seamlessly freeing up Shenestra mind to do other things, like stabbing. But allot of her gear is surgically grafted into her secondary neural network, allowing mental interface, which is a second level of defense in of itself.

I imagine it would devolve into some giant unseen war of fire walls, viruses, worms, and subterfuge. But again, I'm not sure how your 'takeover' works, but I imagine u using the medium of his soul for it, so it stands to reason another spirit can block it.

[MelonHead]

Perhaps, but I think my characters inherent ability is more than powerful enough to match, and defeat, a passive spirit, which can only be either equipment or an NPC, neither are as powerful as a main character.

This is a give and take situation here, if you expect to be able to detect my character with anything other than your naked eyes, and therefore learn anything other than a Victorian man with a satchel and possibly a pistol is approaching you, then your character is unwittingly compromising them self to his ability. Unfortunately, my character is pretty much immune to viruses worms and subterfuge, as I stated his mind and his Soul Crystal are magical in nature, not technological. His ability just allows him to infuse technology with his magic and take control of it. Though the spirit can resist this with its own magic, he will also be able to detect that happening as well.

You have to remember, my character is making no effort to hide but he is aware that a saboteur of significant skill is present, where-as your character can only assume what he's capable of from some shooting earlier. So, hiding from my character while also detecting him and also learning things is not possible, you can do maybe two at most, not all three.

[MelonHead]

Anyway, I'm going to assume that as your character is using cloaking, but also using tech to scout my character out, he can sense her presence to a roughly accurate location. I'll probably make my post on this assumption, and just make some very rudimentary analysis of your characters technology before getting on with chatting or whatever, I'll be sure to include this spirit... thingy, is resisting my attempts, hence why my analysis will be no more or less effective than your own.

[MelonHead]

Well, that's the best I can do with your confusing description of the room

[Skallagrim]

3) Clarity of your writing is paramount. If you are not clear in describing your actions it will lead to needless arguments. Everything you write should be as clear and concise as possible. This includes settings.

[MelonHead]

Well, my reading comprehension of Khan's posts has never been great for some reason, could you take a look and see if you understand the layout of the room from Khan's post?

[Skallagrim]

Hexagon rooms, two half circles (domes?) at the base of a platform in the center of the room. I am not sure if Khan is in the room or behind the room as The Death Cultist had already taken cover behind the hexagonal shaped rooms two great half circle reactors positioned at the base of the large platform centered in the middle of the room places the character outside the room.

Khan is somewhere where she can observe the N/S access points to the room. Therefore, I am assuming there are only two entry points. Although I am confused as the only cover described is behind the domes at the center of the room.

It would seem likely it would attempt to repair the damage to the reactor which meant ascending the short stairs there and approaching the pedestal with its now three dead crystals, leaving it’s back to her.

This indicates that you would have to climb up the steps on the large platform to access the generator that is on the platform. But since there is no actual mention of anything else but the hexagon domes and the platform I would find it hard, unless Khan was moving to keep the domes between you from staying completely hidden.

[GreivousKhan]

Oh, and I forgot to mention again the pillars scattered around the room, I never gave them a number at the time though.

Shenestra discovered the room was full of all kinds of overly large cables, wires, pipes, or pillars containing or wrapped in all three.

[Skallagrim]

GreivousKhan said
Oh, and I forgot to mention again the pillars scattered around the room, I never gave them a number at the time though.

That's an important element....if you mention it here,

Shenestra discovered the room was full of all kinds of overly large cables, wires, pipes, or pillars containing or wrapped in all three. Silently as possible Shenestra opened the grate, leaving it hanging open by one screw. She fell to the floor landing in a crouch. In the middle of the room were three small crystals levitating, or perhaps suspended in a field between two larger pillars. One connected to the ceiling the other the floor.

You need to carry it forward especially if you are using it for cover.

[MelonHead]

And where are the reactors you're hiding behind? In the east and west side of the room? They weren't there when you were fighting the guards.

[GreivousKhan]

Skallagrim said
That's an important element....if you mention it here, You need to carry it forward especially if you are using it for cover.

Oh, I was not using it at the time, hence I did not mention them.

MelonHead said
And where are the reactors you're hiding behind? In the east and west side of the room? They weren't there when you were fighting the guards.

There on either side of the main platform the crystals are located. I never mentioned them cause they were a none factor, place I wanted to give it a more power room look.

[MelonHead]

You said there were guards at the north and south, so they must be on the east and west side of the room, and they can't be any larger than the crystal platform or you wouldn't have been able to see the guards in the earlier attack.

Well, whichever reactor you've hidden behind my character will be on the opposite side of the room, magicking the crystals.

[GreivousKhan]

Wait, what hand is clockwork man using (I assume his right hand) and which way did he turn?

And my slight crouch with only bent knees become a full crouch from the ground? :P

[MelonHead]

Regardless, it would have extended the time it took to get to the Clockwork Man, so he could plausibly beat your hand away.

And yeah, he used his right hand, and turned to the right, both of which I pretty clearly stated. (although I said low hand, because it was obvious and I used the word 'right' way too many times as it is.)