England the 51st state.

[Vilageidiotx]

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@Dead Girl

[Dead Girl]

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@Vilageidiotx

Well, if you think about it. The United Kingdom is the 51st state in name only. What America has done to The United Kingdom, is what the United Kingdom did to Ireland. Shit happens!

[Vilageidiotx]

Starve them to death? We didn't do that. We gave them McDonalds.

[Dinh AaronMk]

Hey, it's England's fault they lost the Suez. Not ours.

[Vilageidiotx]

And giving India to Gandhi... tsk tsk. What would Kipling think if he saw you now?

[Dead Girl]

Starve them to death? We didn't do that. We gave them McDonalds.

@Vilageidiotx

that's why prince Williams wife is so fat.

[Iluvatar]

We just let you Americans think you're independant >:)

[mdk]

England is not the 51st state. England can be the 245th state, right after every other country on earth. The capital will not be London -- the capital will be DALLAS. Tony Romo will be the new queen.

[Dead Girl]

We just let you Americans think you're independant >:)

@Iluvatar

We just let you English think your prime minister's has free will with foreign policy.



Can you refute that?

[Iluvatar]

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We just let you English think your prime minister's has free will with foreign policy.



Can you refute that?

@Dead Girl

No, because I absolutely agree with you. Blair was simply a pathetic puppet of your government (which I'm not a huge fan of, I might add) that dragged us into Iraq even though few Britons wanted to go. My previous comment was more ironic, dry humour (<-- British spelling - yes, that's right America - the letter 'U' exists. Wait, what's the letter 'Z'?).

Also, I advise you not to use the term 'English' when referring to a 'British' PM. Such error is what annoys the Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish most, hence the otherwise meaningless and all-round disadvantageous Scottish independence movement.

Fortunately, our government can also influence yours, to some extent. I believe your government decided not to bombard Syria because of the British Parliament's decision not to assist (or perhaps it was just one of the reasons, I dunno).

I am generally slightly anti-American myself, not because of the people (except for those of you with accents that I find extremely annoying, though I assume that to be mutual) but your government in most cases. Also, in terms of history, I prefer Canada as a nation - they were more loyal, not like you upstart colonials south of the border :P (you Canada's trousers you...)

[null123]

(you Canada's trousers you...)

@Iluvatar

Excuse me Canada is our hat.

[Jig]

Also, I advise you not to use the term 'English' when referring to a 'British' PM. Such error is what annoys the Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish most, hence the otherwise meaningless and all-round disadvantageous Scottish independence movement.

@Iluvatar

Especially if the Prime Minister isn't actually English, like Gordon Brown (Scottish) or David Cameron (Reptile).

[Iluvatar]

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Excuse me Canada is our hat.

@duck55223

Tell that to the Canadians :P

[Dead Girl]

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Also, I advise you not to use the term 'English' when referring to a 'British' PM. Such error is what annoys the Scots, Welsh and Northern Irish most, hence the otherwise meaningless and all-round disadvantageous Scottish independence movement.

@Iluvatar

Well, I was born in Canada. Father is an American and mother is from Canada. They wanted me to have the best of both worlds. At any time, I can live in each country. Sorry for calling the prime minister 'English' even that he is the British PM. Bad habit from Canada, as we have English Canada and French Canada. True, I do have a Scotch last name: it is just more common to think of yourself as English then Scotch-Canadian. Or with most people in Canada, American-Canadian as a large part of Canadians have some family history from America. But if you say American-Canadian, people will just find it weird. Just like Scotch-English British.

I am generally slightly anti-American myself, not because of the people (except for those of you with accents that I find extremely annoying, though I assume that to be mutual) but your government in most cases. Also, in terms of history, I prefer Canada as a nation - they were more loyal, not like you upstart colonials south of the border :P (you Canada's trousers you...)

Well, it is just not being more loyal: it is more or less just too small of a population over a large land-mass. Canada has always had the problem about identity with itself. With only around 36 million people in a country that has more land-mass then America. Still, half the population of Canada less then 100 miles from the American boarder and very few north of 60 degrees north is not ideal with building self-confidence.

America on the other hand, if you are looking at the "American War" is a little different. American's think it was taxes that broke them away, but that is more the bad-aid on a bigger issue. Take the American flag, it is not really an America idea in the first place. True, they did dump tea in Boston Harbor but borrowed the flag of the "East India Company" pre-1801 with the Kings Colors. Only dropping the Kings Colors down one strip and calling it the Grand Union flag. During the American War, they added the five pointed star: but the family coat of arms with George Washington's family had a three red five pointed stars. Really, the American flag is more a cut and paste English flag. Strange the American's want to talk about liberty and freedom but borrows a company flag of the East India Company when America's like to call it the British East India Tea Company.

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Especially if the Prime Minister isn't actually English, like Gordon Brown (Scottish) or David Cameron (Reptile).

@Jig

Are Reptile from Liverpool?

[Jig]

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Are Reptile from Liverpool?

@Dead Girl

No, from the Bullingdon Club.

It's a subject of much controversy, for those of you who don't know, in the UK that George Osborne, Boris Johnson, David Cameron, three of our biggest names in contemporary politics, all attended the same male-exclusive club at (I think-) Oxford University, having all attended the same public* schools.

* by public schools, we British don't mean public schools at all: they're what we call our ultra-fancy, typically boarding schools that you have to pay ultra-big bucks to attend.

[Dead Girl]

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No, from the Bullingdon Club.

It's a subject of much controversy, for those of you who don't know, in the UK that George Osborne, Boris Johnson, David Cameron, three of our biggest names in contemporary politics, all attended the same male-exclusive club at (I think-) Oxford University, having all attended the same public* schools.

* by public schools, we British don't mean public schools at all: they're what we call our ultra-fancy, typically boarding schools that you have to pay ultra-big bucks to attend.

@Jig

I understand now. Was told before the election about your ultra-boring political leadership.

With education, American has that as a problem as well. Just a few miles from were I live, you can drive your child to a school that will charge you $10,000 a year for pre-K. When your child enters the third grade, you have already spend $40,000 on your child's education. There are the other schools that charge $18,000 per-year from middle school up to high school. After thinking about it, with those children: your talking 1.5 to 2.0 million from pre-K to masters degree.

How many of my college friends bitch about having less then $40,000 college loan to pay off for their 4 year college degree when I can point to a number of children that their parents have already paid that much to get their child in the 3rd grade. And they are willing to spend 1.5 million or more just to get a single masters degree.

[Vilageidiotx]

Fortunately, our government can also influence yours, to some extent. I believe your government decided not to bombard Syria because of the British Parliament's decision not to assist (or perhaps it was just one of the reasons, I dunno).

@Iluvatar

Eh, I think the biggest reason (though I am sure there are many) is that the Bush years have left the United States with an aversion to intervention in the middle east, so politicians are less comfortable getting themselves associated with pro-war sentiments. Any time there was a similar situation, like Libya or Mali, people talked about them with the assumption that they would just be another Iraq. Maybe there is some other way we can get fooled into supporting an unnecessary war in the future, but Syria was just way too similar to Iraq for it to sell. Most of the the politicians involved are looking out for their careers.

...and there was Russia. I would suspect public opinion and Russia played the largest roles, with British unwillingness being a tertiary deterrent that helped add up to the decision.

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No, from the Bullingdon Club.

It's a subject of much controversy, for those of you who don't know, in the UK that George Osborne, Boris Johnson, David Cameron, three of our biggest names in contemporary politics, all attended the same male-exclusive club at (I think-) Oxford University, having all attended the same public* schools.

* by public schools, we British don't mean public schools at all: they're what we call our ultra-fancy, typically boarding schools that you have to pay ultra-big bucks to attend.

@Jig

Heh, that sounds a lot like the controversy that came up in 2004 about both Bush and Kerry belonging to the Skull and Bones society when there were at Yale. Though, that they produced both Bush and Kerry seems to suggest that they are not particularly impressive despite their name...

[Dead Girl]

Heh, that sounds a lot like the controversy that came up in 2004 about both Bush and Kerry belonging to the Skull and Bones society when there were at Yale. Though, that they produced both Bush and Kerry seems to suggest that they are not particularly impressive despite their name...

@Vilageidiotx

Oh great, boring men watching porn movies and drinking beer on a Friday night.

[Jig]

Heh, that sounds a lot like the controversy that came up in 2004 about both Bush and Kerry belonging to the Skull and Bones society when there were at Yale. Though, that they produced both Bush and Kerry seems to suggest that they are not particularly impressive despite their name...

@Vilageidiotx

The big criticism of the public school -> oxbridge -> high public office from me is obviously the corruption, but that it spits out shiny PR twats with no real character.

In the recent election campaign, David Cameron made a prepared joke about his favourite football team: he got the wrong team. Somebody had written his speech for him, made a mistake, and the shiny twat hadn't noticed; his 'human persona' is written for him. He's just a shallow husk of a human that doesn't even have the honesty to admit he doesn't like prole-sports.