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"In this tale, we explore the tragedy of competition."

"The tragedy of having difference. The tragedy of lacking difference."

"We love our fellow countrymen, deride those of other lands, learn wisdom, spread ignorance, foster grudges, are incited by misunderstandings, relish prejudice, savor persecution, and feel pity."

"And for this, we pray."

"We pray that there may never be another war."



Hi everyone! So, this is for a roleplay centered around the world of Fate/Stay Night and Fate/Zero, where seven heroes from ages past are summoned by seven mages, to fight a battle royale for control of the Holy Grail.

Instead of the Fourth Holy Grail War (Fate/Zero) or the fifth (Fate/Stay Night), this is an alternate version of the third! The RP will take place in 1939, one week before Poland is invaded by the German Reich and hostilities commence.

The setting will be Fuyuki (the same as in Zero and Stay Night), and there will be two teams, the Japanese team and the German team, fighting for the Holy Grail. The Japanese team has its equivalent of the Mage's Association backing it, while the German team has the Thule Society (and maybe a little bit from Ahnenerbe).

The Church is impartial during this war, and has a moderator present, Risei Kotomine. This is the first time the Church has moderated, so both teams will probably be a little hostile to priests interfering in magus matters.

Something a bit unique about this roleplay is that the Master "roles" are fixed. That doesn't mean you're playing canon Masters, but instead you make a character for your chosen roles! For instance, the Japanese side's roles are the Tohsaka family, Matou family, Einzbern family (which can summon Ruler or Avenger Servants if you want), and a member of the Imperial Japanese military, so we'll need one of each to fill out the Japanese side! For the German side, it will be two Edelfelts (who summon "the same Servant twice", like having two King Arthurs), a member of the SS, and a member of the Thule Society.

I'll be writing up the descriptions for those Master roles soon to explain their little nuances (for instance, the Einzbern character will be a homunculus), but if you're really interested in one or two in particular, let me know and I can explain it right now so you can start on coming up with ideas!

Servants don't have those sorts of specific roles, so just stick to the normal seven classes and make whatever you want! I'll get a banlist for really strong Servants and a few other things up soon if we have enough interest. Also, like I said, the Einzbern can summon Ruler or Avenger, but if you want to make one of those, please check with whoever's making the Einzbern character that they're okay with whatever you're making first! I'd really hate for someone to make a sheet and then all their effort gets wasted because the Einzbern player prefers someone else.

You can have up to two characters, but both characters need to belong to the same faction (I'll be making some private chats for talking about tactics for each team, so we want to keep that fair!), and unless you're doing the Edelfelts, one will need to be a Servant and one will need to be a Master. You can partner with yourself, but I'd really really really prefer you don't, for the sake of character interaction!

Something I think will be fun is that there's going to be imbalance in classes. So as an example, it's possible for the German team to have the three Knight Classes (one of them being summoned twice because of the Edelfelts) while the Japanese faction has the four Cavalry Classes, so the teams will have super-different styles and strategies!

If you've got any questions, ask away! Otherwise, if you're interested in joining then definitely let me know.

Below are tentative versions of the CSs that may get changed between now and the OOC getting put up, to help you in making whatever you want to do preliminarily.





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I'm not really too interested in joining because of the bizarre fixed setup (and the only relevant idea I have is an Avenger), but you do realise that you're obliging someone to play a Nazi and have a team that is entirely fine with Nazis?
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I'm not really too interested in joining because of the bizarre fixed setup (and the only relevant idea I have is an Avenger), but you do realise that you're obliging someone to play a Nazi and have a team that is entirely fine with Nazis?


Well, I'd hope people are able to separate OOC and IC matters, and that a German faction character wouldn't be running around praising Nazi ideology nonstop, considering that's hardly the point of the roleplay. Besides that, I don't understand why someone would apply for a given role if they wouldn't be comfortable with making a character for it; it's not as if I'm forcing someone to join and moreover forcing them into a specific role.

Moreover, gross heights of immorality aren't exactly staggering for magi in the setting in the first place (the mafia boss who turned thousands of kidnapped people into literal fuel, for instance), and I've seen plenty a Servant sheet written for people like Hitler as well as other mass-murderers throughout prior history. Repulsive characters whose morality we rightfully find disgusting is a dime a dozen for this. I don't see why I would skirt around that if I wouldn't also ban people who butchered humanity for similar reasons. If people want to apply for a role, they will, if they don't then they won't, and regardless of their choice it doesn't mean I'll tolerate bringing that sort of thing from IC to OOC.

It's also worth noting that, as will be noted in the roles when they're actually up, the Edelfelts in all likelihood won't be actual Nazi sympathizers and are more working on their own agenda, so betrayal's fully possible and maybe even likely there, depending on how they're written. The member of the Thule Society isn't obliged to be a member of the Nazi party either, and even the SS officer, while obviously a member of the party in a de juro sense, isn't obliged to any particular set of ideological principles.

I hope that clears up your misunderstanding!
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There was no misunderstanding. Clarifying that you haven't missed something obvious is completely different. Namely, that you clearly have a villainous team sitting there and an SS Officer who's complicit in, and almost certainly believes, Nazi ideology.

Though thank you for assuming I don't know the setting. I clearly have a Nasuverse avatar for no reason whatsoever. <.<
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I...don't really understand the reason for the abrasiveness, but alright. Have a good day regardless!
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Is the Assassin class going to be under the Hassan restriction for this RP? Also, while I am aware that Divine Spirits are usually out of the question for not being able to be summoned, do you make an exception for official ones? I was considering Stheno.
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Hm~

I am posting tentative interest here. I admittedly, am not the most well versed in fate lore only really knowing Fate/Extra as well as what's in the English version of Grand Order.

If that's alright, I wouldn't mind joining this and taking one of those German spots.
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Is the Assassin class going to be under the Hassan restriction for this RP? Also, while I am aware that Divine Spirits are usually out of the question for not being able to be summoned, do you make an exception for official ones? I was considering Stheno.


Non-Hassan Assassins are perfectly usable. Also for the sake of letting people use what they want, modifications have been made to the Grail so that "Anti-Heroes" and Eastern Heroic Spirits are summonable.

Divine Spirits will generally be banned on the basis of power and because doing so's usually impossible. That said, Stheno and Euryale are summonable because of how weak they are, so I'll allow them. Artemis!Orion and Quetzalcoatl are not allowed, though.

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Hm~

I am posting tentative interest here. I admittedly, am not the most well versed in fate lore only really knowing Fate/Extra as well as what's in the English version of Grand Order.

If that's alright, I wouldn't mind joining this and taking one of those German spots.


No worries! If you have any questions either during the application process or during the roleplay, don't hesitate to ask. Part of my role here is to try and equalize information of the setting as best I can.
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Nice, I'll be submitting that then when it goes up. Don't mind playing for either faction.
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Nice, I'll be submitting that then when it goes up. Don't mind playing for either faction.


Sounds good!

Just to keep people updated on what's been going on in PMs, we have people currently working on sheets for all Servant classes, the SS Master slot, and the Matou Master slot. We do have people working on other Master sheets, but they're up in the air on what they'll end up picking.

As a sidenote, we're not doing true first-come first-served, so if I get two Saber applications reasonably close to one another for instance, I will pick the one I think will work better in the roleplay to fill our Saber slot.

I'd ideally like a couple more interested people just to be extra-sure we can fill out all the slots, but regardless, the OOC will probably go up today or tomorrow!
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There was no misunderstanding. Clarifying that you haven't missed something obvious is completely different. Namely, that you clearly have a villainous team sitting there and an SS Officer who's complicit in, and almost certainly believes, Nazi ideology.

Though thank you for assuming I don't know the setting. I clearly have a Nasuverse avatar for no reason whatsoever. <.<


I just wanted to make my first post in half a year to tell you that you're being a dick here, you know?
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I shall put in my tentative interest as well. Wherever there's a Nasuverse RP I shall appear, even if only to lurk around.
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What's this? An OOC, in my interest check? Preposterous.
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One of our players has had to drop out, and we now need an Archer, so applications for that are now reopened!
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