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@Lewascan2 OK, I like the sheet. I just feel that she's a little too strong for the very start. Being a small universe is something I may have expected further down the road. I won't ask that you change anything for now. Would you accept a temporary nerf slapped on her for the start of the RP?

Sure. I wasn't certain where the line exactly was, but you seemed to want "anime character in the final fight of the last episode with the OP playing behind them" (with Simon from Gurren Lagann as the example in the post with said quote), so I aimed a bit high. What sort of nerf? The "being a universe" bit?

I will say that her being effectively a very very small universe was the idea (literally human-sized at the start), one that is slowly growing in power (and bigger on the inside), as her new state of being grows into its own, sort of like how Superman had to grow into his powers after absorbing years of sunlight. But that's slightly digressing.

Assuming we leave everything mostly as-is, an initial nerf would work. Perhaps gradually loosening power-constraints? Basically, most of her mana generation is tied up with maintaining and stabilizing her new exotic body while expanding its energy production, so she's a bit limited in when and where she should be expending her mana. Going anywhere near lightspeed for any significant period right now is something that's too energy intensive, and time travel is both mana-expensive and also extremely dangerous (or so she believes), since her body is rather experimental and its limits unknown should she put it up against more time shenanigans.



As a major point of note and sort of self-imposed nerf: I do want to say that despite time travel being the keystone of her ascension, it was always the plan to make all the IC justifications I can to ensure she doesn't use it except as the most absolute of last resorts. After all, only reason she ever tried it to begin with was when the alternative was her planet's genocide, and her method to stave off a paradox still cost her literally everything but her mind and soul. It's an extremely powerful tool... and an often double-edged sword, and I intend to treat it as such.
And also, from an OOC story-telling perspective, I know very well how careful one must be with its utilization in order to not kill all sense of tension, so I've been planning on how to nerf it myself (a large part being Jen's inexperience with it), especially given that I'm sure its regular use would be quite annoying to both the GM and my fellow players.
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Fun fact: in the lore for a board game (Kingdom Death: Monster), the closest thing to their world's ultimate evil is an "Entity" called the Goblin. There's content forthcoming for battling the Goblin Dragon (as dragons are the physical manifestations of Entities), but for now its entire relationship with the game is a random event where the Goblin looks at you, and you instantly die.




I don't know whether to be in awe of the detail or disappointed that the ultimate evil in a world more Lovecrafian than Lovecraft isn't just a regular ass fantasy goblin.
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@Kassarock Flawless, accepted. I'm glad we're going the Asura's Wrath route with this.


Ty, will give it a final polish and move it over to the CHAR tab.
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Yo guys come on don't let this just die.
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Yo guys come on don't let this just die.


Can't really do much but be patient. The GM is still setting things up. Keep in mind, he only finished the CS relatively recently. Also, they probably have IRL stuff to attend to. They're obviously much more occupied than you or I. I will admit (constantly rechecking the page every couple hours or so as I am) that I'm a bit frustrated with the speed of conversation myself, but I have plenty of other things to occupy me in the meantime.

After all, my character is basically done and approved. She just needs a bit of a nerf for the start to eventually grow out of, so all that's left is to figure out just what shape exactly that nerf will take, which requires some conversation.

On that note of CS creation, maybe finish your own character sheet fully and get it out there for submission? That way the GM has something to actually respond to. I can see they've already approved of your broad strokes concept; just need to get the expanded version given the go-ahead.
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@Lewascan2 I've been busy myself, just saw it's been two days I was just worried!
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@Lewascan2 I tend to busy myself a lot so yeah anyhow guess I'll spend some time tonight on my sheet.
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@Lewascan2 Oh, I hadn't realized that you wanted to negotiate the nerf.

What I was planning was basically putting your character on the same footing as everyone else at the start, divorced from their "universe" and therefore most of her power. She can still move very fast, but the Void is not a place where concepts like time, speed, distance, etc, hold a lot of value.
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Not negotiate the nerf necessarily. I just had no context for what you wanted to do specifically. I was just throwing something out there, and I do want to do something that hopefully makes everyone happy. I'm perfectly fine with a nerf; after all, I'd already planned on self-nerfing her time travel (and still do).

divorced from their "universe" and therefore most of her power. She can still move very fast, but the Void is not a place where concepts like time, speed, distance, etc, hold a lot of value.


The only real issue with this is that Jen uses White magic primarily and is actually a bit of a novice with advanced Red magic, so she compensates with her mastery of Speed specifically. Honestly, she'd be utterly hopeless at any Red magic (and most magic in general) that has nothing to do with Speed, but digression aside, what that boils down to is that the majority of her power is actually entirely internal (even before her ascension).
I went that way since you seemed to want characters to have power sources completely separate from outside/dimensional sources. That's part of the reason I had her ascension change her body so that she generated her own energy and basically embodies her own perception of Speed, not the local one.

I'm guessing the way this'll work is she's mostly limited to internal manipulations and just has a really hard time manipulating the world around her (aka Red magic)? Which means she won't be able to easily effect the world or other people (ie Time Travel or moving people quickly without killing them from whiplash) until she gets a better handle on how the local reality/universal rules (if any) work. So this would cut her off from performing the majority of her objectively most impressive feats, and she'll have to re-learn them according to the new rules of reality.

I was thinking of making some more specific notes regarding her body, like the fact that (despite being a tiny universe) it's not actually much more durable than a regular human's and won't be until she grows in power and gets "denser". Unless by "divorced from her universe" you were referring to said body? In that case, I'm perfectly up for nerfing the power generation component and reducing her to more of an elemental, where the state of "being a small universe" is what she is currently in the process of evolving into.
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Sheet should be done before Monday.
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Really just waiting on more/finished sheets before we can start.
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@Dead Cruiser No worries, I'm trying to get my sheet done as of this moment shouldn't take another day.
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@Dead Cruiser
Any more general specifics on the nerf?
For now, I'm thinking what I'll do specifically is have Jen have the most trouble with Red magic applications, since the world around her operates on different rules of reality that she'll have to adapt to. And her state of "being a tiny universe" is not her current state, but instead what she is evolving into. For now, she's merely more an "elemental" of speed. As a result of her current state of "evolving", her mana is somewhat limited, since she's afraid to mess with the portion of it that's devoted to her body's maintenance until her body finishes stabilizing its transition.
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Whoops, internet glitched and made me double-post.
You know what? I'll make use of this accident to post an edited (and hopefully final) version of the CS. The main changes will be additions of initial nerf details to her Mastery and Ephemera sections. Everything else should be the same aside from her first title.

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Ugh I hate this part the Legend always stumps me.
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Well, from what I've seen, all you really need is the bare bones of their origin, a general description of their journey (like a book synopsis almost) and then maybe several examples of epic feats they've accomplished or rumors about them.

How they actually triumphed in the most ultimate of ways, the end of their journey and reaching the peak of their power, should be saved for the Ascent section.
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@Lewascan2 I keep thinking that I've replied to you when I haven't. I blame mind goblins.

Uhh basically what you can expect is that in the genesis of her new self-universe, she has made her personal conception of speed tied to that universe. Therefore when she and the universe are apart, so is she and the concept of speed. Not to mention that the laws of physics and causality in the Void are... up to interpretation.
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Okay, sure? The thing I'm having trouble grasping is how she'd be "apart" from her self-universe if said universe is literally her body. And how would she still use Speed Magic while unable to even touch upon the concept of speed (unless you mean just the concept of speed in the Void around her, in which case, she basically has to internalize all her magical efforts)?
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