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I am going to say you do not have to do it if you do not want to. More so if you think you have access to what resources you are okay with.


I have a question, do you think that the minoans might have had acid? i cant find any info on it
I am asking for the sole purpose (for right now atleast) of acid etching damascus blades
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I have a question, do you think that the minoans might have had acid? i cant find any info on it
I am asking for the sole purpose (for right now atleast) of acid etching damascus blades


I am going to say no, and why are you going for Damascus Blades? You need Wootz steel to make Damascus steel, and that is from India. Which Wootz steel is nowhere close to being invented yet.

Minoan nor anyone would have access to Wootz steel or Damascus steel to make Damascus Blades for like one thousand+ years.
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Damascus is made from several different layers of metal forged together, then acid etched to show the pattern, it is a forging technique, wich ignoring all ways to get this save for one, can be procured by forging a meteorite.
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@Theyra also, what was the Minoan head of government, i am not having much luck finding out online, so asking you
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I think I'll make 1 or 2 more posts and I'll be ready for the first timeskip.
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Damascus is made from several different layers of metal forged together, then acid etched to show the pattern, it is a forging technique, wich ignoring all ways to get this save for one, can be procured by forging a meteorite.


Crucible steel is what you are talking about. But that is made by melting different kinds of iron and some other stuff like sand and glass together. So you need more than meteoric iron and no one is mining iron in this time period. Which yeah Damascus Steel is crucible steel, but, no one knows how Damascus Steel was made since the techniques were lost and the attempts to make it used steel that was very similar to Wootz steel or used different kinds of steel and iron to make it.

Plus, meteoric iron is already iron, no need to smelt, and that is why people used it in the Bronze Age. They did not need to smelt it to use it like with iron ore, and they just hammered it into the shape they wanted. So you have to invent a furnace that can reach the temperature needed to melt the iron since that has not been invented yet.

Now I could be wrong about stuff but, you would still need to make a setup where your char could do this and do it reliably. No one in ancient or modern times makes steel from meteoric iron, so you would be on your own and have no knowledge of how to make steel from meteoric iron using ancient techniques. I am not sure if you can try doing it with a modern technique with no modern setup. Also, it has to be an iron meteorite. Not a random meteorite.

Side note about your post, parchment has not been invented yet. That was invented in the 2nd century BC. So your char cannot just write down the blueprints for a galley. They would have to invent it or a writing surface on which he can write on. But, I do not think your character knows how to do.

@Theyra also, what was the Minoan head of government, i am not having much luck finding out online, so asking you


From what I could find, it is either elite families ruled both the government and religion or a theocracy of some sort, governed by a college of priestesses. So no one ruler ruled the island.

I think I'll make 1 or 2 more posts and I'll be ready for the first timeskip.


Okay, good to know.
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Okay TruckKun, so I may have been too hard on you about the Damascus Steel part but, to even attempt to try and make Damascus Steel which no one knows how they made it. You would have to invent some stuff before you can try to make Damascus Steel. Like a Kiln and maybe even a blast furnace. Plus, I want to say a source of iron outside of iron meteorites, since finding enough to smelt it and steel, if that is possbile and make swords may be hard or not viable if you want to mass-produce it.

And again, parchment has not been invented yet. That was invented in the 2nd century BC. So your char cannot just write down the blueprints for a galley. They would have to find something to write stuff down since your char would not have to know how to invent parchment.
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I'll be making a post here Wednesday. Been busy with irl work and such in general otherwise in the meantime. (@_@)
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Okay TruckKun, so I may have been too hard on you about the Damascus Steel part but, to even attempt to try and make Damascus Steel which no one knows how they made it. You would have to invent some stuff before you can try to make Damascus Steel. Like a Kiln and maybe even a blast furnace. Plus, I want to say a source of iron outside of iron meteorites, since finding enough to smelt it and steel, if that is possbile and make swords may be hard or not viable if you want to mass-produce it.

And again, parchment has not been invented yet. That was invented in the 2nd century BC. So your char cannot just write down the blueprints for a galley. They would have to find something to write stuff down since your char would not have to know how to invent parchment.


What did they use for writing then? because when i looked it up all i could find was that they had advanced past the point of clay tablets/slate
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@Theyra I will adjust my post later
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What did they use for writing then? because when i looked it up all i could find was that they had advanced past the point of clay tablets/slate


Where did you find that? Since I am finding that the Minoans still used clay tablets. Give me a link to what you found. But about parchment... it seems I was a bit wrong, and it could be around. Papyrus would be around as well. Sorry about that.
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I'll be making a post here Wednesday. Been busy with irl work and such in general otherwise in the meantime. (@_@)


Okay, good to know and take your time.
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@Theyra and now my source dissapered smh. I will adjust my thing about the gov heads though
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After ALL this time has passed, I feel like I'm too stupid to contribute to this RP. Not necessarily IRL, so much as I made a mistake in character creation and have no idea how to proceed.
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After ALL this time has passed, I feel like I'm too stupid to contribute to this RP. Not necessarily IRL, so much as I made a mistake in character creation and have no idea how to proceed.


What mistake did you make? I can help if you need it.
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What mistake did you make? I can help if you need it.


For my abilities, I didn't put metal working anywhere for sure. I can't really make use of my idea if that's not there.
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For my abilities, I didn't put metal working anywhere for sure. I can't really make use of my idea if that's not there.


Okay, so you want to change your CS to have metalworking and you would have to change or add how he learned that. If this skill is that important to your character's arcs then I suppose I can let you have it. But only this one time and only add metal working.
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Okay, so you want to change your CS to have metalworking and you would have to change or add how he learned that. If this skill is that important to your character's arcs then I suppose I can let you have it. But only this one time and only add metal working.


Thank you, I appreciate it a lot.
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@TruckKun I am sorry and this is late but, I feel like there should be more build up for the leaders of Crete to trust and accept your ideas. Your char has only been for two and half weeks and the galley is not even done and tested to be good. Just slow down and do more stuff before the leadership trusts your char.
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We're immortal and we'll do 10 year timeskips (maybe even bigger ones?) its not like we're in a rush lol
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