@TruckKun I am sorry and this is late but, I feel like there should be more build up for the leaders of Crete to trust and accept your ideas. Your char has only been for two and half weeks and the galley is not even done and tested to be good. Just slow down and do more stuff before the leadership trusts your char.

Ok, fair enough

And post. Love reading your stuff guys, and am eager to have the first time skip and have our characters meet and interact eventually!

@Crusader Lord Especially, love the details and character building.

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Got a post in finally! Thank goodness. Took longer than I had thought, but after this I might do a bit of a longer skip, or two smaller scenes from two more skips, to try to catch up to where everyone else is at somewhat. Will see how it goes! Certainly going to be busy these next two weekends as well.

The hope I have is for Eliza to get ahold of iron, since it is more notable to this area of Japan from what I can look up, then finding copper and maybe only some minor surface tin eventually so bronze becomes a thing in a more organic manner. Then finding out the mountains nearby have iron sand, which will lead to her having to rediscover the type of process used by irl Japan to make steel from that. Etc. Nothing to be rushed, but more long term things to enjoy coming across and discovering alone or with others!

Will take time for her to produce significant results, though, but that's part of the charm of this tougher starting location in my eyes! It all takes time. A lot of effort. Etc.

And post. Love reading your stuff guys, and am eager to have the first time skip and have our characters meet and interact eventually!

@Crusader Lord Especially, love the details and character building.

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This has been a rather enjoyable thing so far, and I do enjoy reading what Astrid, William, and the others are up to as well! :O

Hopefully we all run into each other eventually as well. Could be when the world becomes more globalized naturally in due time, could be sooner depending on world travels or conquests our people might make along the way as our immortals realize they are (in the aging sense at least but not in the dying by violence sense) in fact ageless immortals now. Etc, etc!

Ahem, but I am rambling a bit overall here. Apologies. ^^;

Kinda curious about the time skip schedule. As I said I kinda plan on being done with my first 5 years soon and I see our gm is still at his first month, some not even there.

Kinda curious about the time skip schedule. As I said I kinda plan on being done with my first 5 years soon and I see our gm is still at his first month, some not even there.

I do plan to start doing it by years and, but yeah. Some people are going more slowly than you and I am letting people go at their own pace so you may be free for a time but, if it becomes a problem. I will address it.

@TruckKun Uh, my knowledge only comes from stuff like EU4 so its not like I have the knowledge of the gods on that subject but isn't a month a bit quick for a whole galley?

I just asked the AI of course, but apparently a small vessel could take an entire season while a bigger ship could be the work of years. I just think you might want to space out the time especially since like you said, they never built a ship like this before so for the first one no one would really know what they're doing?

@TruckKun I have to agree with Wernher, building a ship they have never built before would take longer. Even with builders who knew how to build it. It would take several months or even years. Not mention the cost of building one would be more than what they are used to. Slow down with this sort of stuff, since you keep moving fast with how things are developing, and it does not make sense. Again, slow down, and one last thing. Sending people off to find something with just the knowledge of something they have not found before does not work, since that means they are on a random goose chase. People would need more direction than that.

@Theyra Thats fair

sorry, im a bit scatterbrained sometimes

@Theyra Thats fair

sorry, im a bit scatterbrained sometimes

It is fine, just take it slow and reasonble and if you have questions or doubts, just ask.

@Crusader Lord@Wernher@ActRaiserTheReturned@TruckKun

Just checking in to see how people are doing, and I do plan on posting this week.

@Crusader Lord@Wernher@ActRaiserTheReturned@TruckKun

Just checking in to see how people are doing, and I do plan on posting this week.

I'm good. I will post soon. But am feeling like crap mental health wise.

@Crusader Lord@Wernher@ActRaiserTheReturned@TruckKun

Just checking in to see how people are doing, and I do plan on posting this week.

Doing good! Will be working the next two days, and was waiting for another post to pop up before I post again.

And posted.

@Crusader Lord@Wernher@ActRaiserTheReturned@TruckKun

Just checking in to see how people are doing, and I do plan on posting this week.

Bit of a rough week, ceilings leaking, there is a hole in the roof, hoping the landlords come soon.

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Bit of a rough week, ceilings leaking, there is a hole in the roof, hoping the landlords come soon.

That sucks and I hope things get better for you.

Posted!

Trying to get some non-smeltery-or-smithing-efforts type stuff up for a moment. A peek into a potential friendship and into how far this hard-working redhead is willing to go! Not that she's quite at her goal yet, but if the ancients had to tinker a lot to get things to work....even someone with a great head-start in knowledge still has to figure it out in the practical sense all the same! Etc, etc.

Next post I am tempted to get a 'first metal tool is made' bit to happen, even if its maybe a hammer head of a small sort attached to a wooden handle of some kind, but I need to figure out if clay vessels and stuff like wooden tongs might work for metalworking stuff.

((I have no perfect picture on how the first metal hammers were made so far in my research, ugh. Does anyone here have some potential info on that so I can have a practical and sensiuble progression for Eliza making metal tools and such? (@_@)))

((I have no perfect picture on how the first metal hammers were made so far in my research, ugh. Does anyone here have some potential info on that so I can have a practical and sensiuble progression for Eliza making metal tools and such? (@_@)))

As far as I can find. The first metal hammers were made of copper that was found and shaped in a hammer. Otherwise, casting it using stone or clay molds. I found that wooden tongs were a thing in the ancient past before metal tongs, so you could use those.

This help or should I research more?

Posted!

Trying to get some non-smeltery-or-smithing-efforts type stuff up for a moment. A peek into a potential friendship and into how far this hard-working redhead is willing to go! Not that she's quite at her goal yet, but if the ancients had to tinker a lot to get things to work....even someone with a great head-start in knowledge still has to figure it out in the practical sense all the same! Etc, etc.

Next post I am tempted to get a 'first metal tool is made' bit to happen, even if its maybe a hammer head of a small sort attached to a wooden handle of some kind, but I need to figure out if clay vessels and stuff like wooden tongs might work for metalworking stuff.

((I have no perfect picture on how the first metal hammers were made so far in my research, ugh. Does anyone here have some potential info on that so I can have a practical and sensiuble progression for Eliza making metal tools and such? (@_@)))

If you mean bronze tools, then I'd say thats been around for a while. If iron though...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrous_metallurgy

'It is not known when or where the smelting of iron from ores began, but by the end of the 2nd millennium BC, iron was being produced from iron ores in the region from Greece to India,'

As for metal production seems to go like
Copper
Bronze
Meteoric iron
Naitve/Telluric iron
Iron ore

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As far as I can find. The first metal hammers were made of copper that was found and shaped in a hammer. Otherwise, casting it using stone or clay molds. I found that wooden tongs were a thing in the ancient past before metal tongs, so you could use those.

This help or should I research more?

That does help! Or at least confirm a couple of things for me to hopefully make it work out IC. Whew. Thanks!

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If you mean bronze tools, then I'd say thats been around for a while. If iron though...

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferrous_metallurgy

'It is not known when or where the smelting of iron from ores began, but by the end of the 2nd millennium BC, iron was being produced from iron ores in the region from Greece to India,'

As for metal production seems to go like
Copper
Bronze
Meteoric iron
Naitve/Telluric iron
Iron ore

Hmm. Yeah, this does help! She might need to see if enough minute copper or such can be found to make a hammer to then handle iron with afterwards, or else she might need to cast something iron using raw heat and something like local iron sand from the mountains at first to get a first tool up and running to better work with iron and so forth thereafter.

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Eliza is wanting to get into iron tools, basically, though in this area of the world people still live a rather sedentary hunter-gatherer neolithic type lifestyle. Their tools are straight-up stone age!

But this is a more iron-rich area of Japan, and I don't want to push the initial rules on availible resources beyond what would be reasonable. There is also iron sand that could be smelted down into stuff, as the Japanese irl managed to eventually do, though currently Eliza isn't thinking about that sort of thing at this very moment and do I want her to come across it organically in due course (sooner, or later, either way).

Stll, this all confirms that there is something to work with here! I did choose her a challenging starting area for a reason, but whew does it present some challenges in the process. Thank you both! :D

@Theyra@Wernher

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That sucks and I hope things get better for you.

Yeah, remind me to post on thursday