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Whelp guess I'll go assassin now. Expect something soon
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@CelticSoldierHe won't be super underpowered because as I said, we may get extras in this game. The four are the strongest characters, but each "class" has an advantage that the other classes do not have. So either way, depending on the class you choose, your character may still prove to be invaluable to the team. Again, it depends because if you choose to do PVP with any of the four, if their T1 abilities suck, then your character can be better than them even if this game says the four are supposed to be the strongest. However for PVE, just for going through the game, your character will be fine. I'm going to add this question to the Q&A.

Edit: I added this question to the Q&A, and I also answered it. I'm going to also let you know that because you chose Blade Master, and you are having your character not learn how to be a Blade Master from one of the four schools, then this means that ALL Blade Masters in the entire game to include NPCs will not have learned to be a Blade Master from one of the four major schools. This also means that you will have to explain where he learned his Blade Master art.

But the reason why this is, is because there are only 6 classes in this game. Which means I am allowing only up to 6 people in this game. Someone will make their class into one of the four schools. So as soon as the four schools are claimed, then two of those schools will not have taught the other classes. Unless I decide to have the school teach more than one class, which is possible. But this will depend on how many of the currently interested people choose to have their characters learn from the four main schools.
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@FantasyChicIf you don't see a class under "Approved Characters," then I wouldn't go assuming that I approved it.
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@Holy Soldier meh I like asassins too. I'll decide when I get home
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@The Grey DustFirst let me say that I’ve seen this character before. I think in a tournament in the past that I’ve participated in on another site. So, I know he’s a premade that you’re trying to shove into this game.

As I was reading this CS, I had to wonder who were you writing this for? Obviously it was for yourself, but you were basically writing a story that 100% revolved around your character and everyone else just did not matter. This isn’t about the four gods or the four grandmasters, this story is about Wu Dan who is trying to be the Avatar. This isn’t Avatar: The Last Airbender. The Dark Chi in this game IS evil and it is like a slow disease waiting to inevitably take the soul of anyone who uses it, if that person didn’t give their soul to demons already just to acquire the power.

You didn’t even explain how he was 300+ years old, living outside human morality. I like that you got him involved on my character’s current story at the end, but this CS is just too Mary Sue. I don’t know why on earth you thought I would accept a CS like this. This CS basically was, “Hey, this is a cool idea, but I got a better one. Let’s make this entire game about me.”

Again, I have no idea why: 1) you wrote this much, and 2) you thought I would accept this CS when you were done. You should have just told me that you were going to submit a Mary Sue to me and I would have saved you the trouble because I would have said, “No man that’s not a good idea because I’m just going to reject that shit.”

It was a good story, but I’m not accepting this CS. Sorry. It goes against everything I believe in.
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Actually you've probably seen it in one of the Rp's I've put him in on this site.
You were this guy.


One of the God roleplays as I was certain I've seen you around before. Children of Aton, remember?

Yes, he is premade, although I can't quite say I'm shoving him into a game that's very sandboxy at the moment.
Maybe he isn't what you see into the game, but I can't exactly see what you see unless the setting is written and explained fully so I can immerse him without such shoehorning.

Of course I can only write a story revolved around my character. He's the only one bar yours that has been written in so far. Given that we are given nothing more than a basic setting, layout, geography, some notes on chi, and a general open world... I cannot write a character for others since I would be infringing upon everyone else's liberties to create their characters if I were to set up each Grandmaster's history and backstory. As such I purposefully did so, writing only about my character for my character as I certainly can't write anyone else's character for them. I did attempt to integrate him towards your character the end as I imagined him winding down the mountain and travelling once more as the eternal wanderer. However you cannot blame me for writing a story that 100% revolves around my character since, no other characters were written thus far (again bar yours) to write around. His goal is simple, defeat baddies, unite the people, be benevolent, spread his philosophy. If there happens to be a plotline where we save the four grandmasters or tustle it out, then that's fine, but I did not particularly make him to be a Main-character Disciple at all. Which I think solely said refutes your claim that I am writing for myself and a story that 100% revolves around my character. Do you agree?

No, he isn't the Avatar, not per say, although the similarities are perhaps because of how they were both designed.
He is an amalgam of several historical East Asian Legendary Figures, mixed in with peppering of Norse.

First is Laozi obviously of the Taoist nature in his abilities and wanderlust.
Second is Zuo Ci from his sorcerous abilities and longevity.
Third is Taigong Wang for his patience and fishing.
Fourth is the Yellow Emperor/Dragon for his position in the Middle of the 4 cardinal directions.
His namesake comes from Odin, as well as a reference to the WuDang mountains where historically Taoist kung fu was taught.
The Schools are Taoist in the yin-yang nature, but also reflect the pair of Norse creatures with raven, ram and wolf.
Shangri-La-Valhalla is not a veiled attempt whatsoever.

Combine these together and yes you do have something which resembles the Avatar, because they were inspired from the same source.
So in short, no he isn't supposed to be the Avatar. Despite the elemental control, of which is a reference to the Five Classical Elements of Wood, Metal, Fire, Earth and Water, which is beyond the 4 classical Greek elements and another system altogether as you may know.

I did explain how he was 300+ years old. He uses Dark Chi abilities to drain the wicked of their life to increase his own. Listed under his techniques. His philosophy is that Dark Chi techniques are NOT evil, but the man who uses them are evil or become evil. Regardless of what truth may be, it is the character's thoughts on the matter and he uses them for the greater good to ensure his philosophy survives despite his aging body.

Regarding the Mary Sue aspects, I thought it was rather not like Mary Sue given the multiple flaws I've given him. First as discussed was his dubious use of Dark Chi, which will certainly bite him later. He can barely keep up with the younger martial artists, requiring him to burn through Chi to do so. Vision alone requires Chi, so he has to have tremendous reserves in combat (doubtful as he must also expend energy for Ki). Thus I see him as the old tiger without teeth, still bearing claws and a jaw, but no longer in his prime. Which is fine since again, I foresaw him taking the role of a teacher or mystic more than a combatant, a side character who is on a quest to usher in an era of tranquility and balance. And he's definitely not going to be able to do that alone, not at his age, he needs some younger folks to take up the mantle for him.

Now then, I hope I have been professional enough respectfully with defending my character against your claims, as I must to explain my thought process in creating such an elaborate detail. I thought it worked well with the setting, but obviously not.

Thank you for your time and consideration. I wish you well with your WuXia.

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@The Grey DustI'm not here to debate with you dude. You would be the only person to send me a character that encompasses all four gods, knows all six classes worth of techniques, and is trying to make Dark Chi a positive thing when it is clearly a negative thing in this game. You tried to rewrite this game with your CS. You didn't take what was already given to you and make a profile within those limitations, you just said "Fuck this, I'm gonna do what I want," and then when I called you on it, you wanted to make excuses, blaming the game and lack there is and just basically whine about it. If you were going to bitch about this game, then that should have told you from the get-go not to join. Because if you had that many issues with it, then why bother? I hope people look at your CS and use it as an example of what never to send to any game unless it was a God game because that would be the only kind of game a character like that would work.
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I'm going to also let you know that because you chose Blade Master,


Just to remind you, I chose gunslinger
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@CelticSoldierlol I don't know how I messed that up. I think I was looking at Milkman's CS thinking it was yours.
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OK, so here's my CS. It is by no means set in stone, so I will make whatever changes you like.


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@CelticSoldierI like it. Approved. :)
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I'm going to try and get my CS up today. The 'Current Story' section will probably be a tad long, but I'll try to pare it down. I have a plan...
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I should be able to finish my sheet later today or tomorrow. I am going the assassin route.

Quick question, the Yun, they are humans still? Just humans born from ruby or fire eggs?
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Nvm. Answered my own question. Thanks.
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I've pretty much finished my character. Might add or modify powers section because I am not 100% content with it yet.
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Ignore this. Updated CS is below.
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Hmmm, either going to be a Blade Master or a Kung Fu master.

Btw, do Kung Fu masters have a limited amount of ki control?
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Alright...I'm not sure how much I can do to shorten the sections I still have to do, but I'll try after dinner. Describing how summoning and possession works and Amaya's history...hoo boy lol.
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